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Posted on Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 5:57 a.m.

'Cinematic Titanic' bringing 'Mystery Science Theater 3000' gang to the Michigan Theater stage

By Jenn McKee

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Why on earth did Joel Hodgson—original host and creator of the cult hit 1990s cable show “Mystery Science Theater 3000,” and now part of the live stage show Cinematic Titanic, coming to Ann Arbor as part of the Ann Arbor Summer Festival—ever think that people would enjoy seeing other people watching a bad movie while making snarky comments?

“I’ve tried a lot of diff things, and this is one of the things that worked,” said Hodgson, who began his career in stand-up comedy. “I think I hit a nerve somehow. I was with the right people who were able to really make (MST3K) funny and make it work. … From the time we were little tiny kids, we’re put in front of a TV, and it talks to us. And at a certain point, you want to talk back. You want to say things back to it. So MST3K and movie riffing in general play off that natural instinct to talk back.”

For five years (1988-93) on the Comedy Channel (which would later become Comedy Central), Hodgson played a man trapped in a space station with robot companions, all of whom were forced to watch bad movies. To survive, they made fun of the movies while appearing as silhouettes at the bottom of the screen.

And while Hodgson went on to do other kinds of projects, and MST3K continued without him until 1998, movie riffing became a comedy subcategory most closely associated with Hodgson.

Not that this gets him recognized often.

“It’s very rare,” said Hodgson. “It doesn’t happen very much at all. It’s always fun when it does happen. People are always really nice, and I do like it. But as far as fame goes, none of us in the (MST3K and Cinematic Titanic) cast are famous enough to be on a reality show like ‘Survivor’ or ‘Dancing With the Stars’ or anything like that. It is cult fame. It’s very different, and it’s kind of nice. I can live a pretty anonymous life and then walk into a theater full of people and still love what I do. It’s great.”

PREVIEW

Cinematic Titanic

  • What: The original cast of the cult hit cable show “Mystery Science Theater 3000”—Joel Hodgson, Trace Beaulieu (Crow, Dr. Forrester); J. Elvis Weinstein (Tom Servo, Dr. Erhardt); Frank Conniff (TV’s Frank) and Mary Jo Pehl (Pearl Forrester)—will flank the jumbo screen at the Michigan Theater and riff on two deliciously bad films in a live stage show. (Local audiences will have two CT options: “Rattlers” at 6 p.m. and “The Doll Squad” at 9 p.m.)
  • Where: The Michigan Theater, 603 E. Liberty St.
  • When: Thursday, July 5 at 6 p.m. (“Rattlers”) and 9 p.m. (“The Doll Squad”)
  • How much: $25. 734-764-2538 or www.a2sf.org or vist the Michigan League Ticket Office at 911 N. University Ave.
Cinematic Titanic—a live performance venture launched in 2007—is built on the principles of MST3K, with many of the same cast of voices commenting on a bad B-movie as it plays. The difference is that Hodgson and his castmates now travel to different parts of the country and flank the movie screen in person while offering their clever quips.

Hodgson and his co-quippers live in different parts of the country, so they use technology to collaborate on CT scripts. And two things will distinguish CT’s upcoming visit to Ann Arbor.

“We usually never work in the summertime,” said Hodgson. “Ann Arbor is one of the few gigs we do in the summer. It’s like school, almost. We take the summer off, usually. So we don’t have another show until the fall.”

Second, one of the two films under scrutiny, “The Doll Squad” (featured at the 9 p.m. screening, with “Rattlers” being screened at 6 p.m.), is being “field tested” for the first time.

Focusing on a seven-woman team of government agents, “The Doll Squad”’s claim to fame is that the movie supposedly inspired Aaron Spelling to later create the landmark TV show, “Charlie’s Angels.”

“This movie is 90 minutes long, and we could probably trim 10 minutes out of it,” said Hodgson. “But you never know exactly what the funny parts are until you get in front of an audience. So once we see how it plays, we’re going to start talking about it. Where did it bottom out? Where was it getting slow, or where wasn’t it working? … There are sections of ‘The Doll Squad’ that are kind of dark. The filmmaker overexposed the film, or underexposed the film, so you can’t tell what’s going on exactly. So we have a lot of remarks about that, and it could work. People might find that funny. And if they don’t, we may cut it out.”

“Rattlers,” meanwhile, “is a great man against nature movie,” said Hodgson. “There were so many movies that came after ‘Jaws,’ after ‘Jaws’ kind of changed the world. … This was obviously doing what Jaws did, but with the rattlesnake, and not as well. But they were obviously trying to exploit that (premise), box office wise.”

Yet can a man who’s made a career out of commenting on movies turn off that reflex at will, when he’s simply watching things for pleasure?

“I’m like everybody else,” said Hodgson. “Every time I’m watching a movie, I’m hoping to be taken away by it, and get lost in it. It’s really different. … And we do it in a group, and obviously, I’d never feel comfortable trying to do it all by myself. That’s not very much fun. … I love doing it, but I have to put on my game face. I have to exercise, I have to get the endorphins firing, and then I have to go in and write. It’s really different when I’m relaxing.

“I’ll give you an example. When I was a stand-up, and I was on the Letterman show, I actually stopped watching the show after I did the show four times or something. … It made (watching the show) more like work. It got me thinking about my act, and it got me thinking about getting on Letterman again. And so I stopped. When you’re getting ready to go to bed, and you’re winding down, you can’t think about work. So they’re very segmented, these two impulses in me.”

Jenn McKee is the entertainment digital journalist for AnnArbor.com. Reach her at jennmckee@annarbor.com or 734-623-2546, and follow her on Twitter @jennmckee.

Comments

SonnyDog09

Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 3:59 p.m.

I liked the idea better the first time when the Ghoul did it.

Robo

Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 3:42 p.m.

I love TVs Frank. plain and simple.

rs

Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 3:36 p.m.

I'm a big fan. I own all the DVD's and go to all of the live shows in MI. They hardly ever release their movies for purchase anymore though (maybe 1 or 2 per year compared to RiffTrax's 1 or 2 per month) and their latest releases have just been recordings of their live shows. Basically the only way to get new Cinematic Titanic material is to go to the live shows, which you should do. You can't not have a good time!!

jns131

Sun, Jul 1, 2012 : 8:47 p.m.

Too short notice for us. Will keep an eye out though for more. Loved this series.

snark12

Sun, Jul 1, 2012 : 5:52 p.m.

Many MST3K fans will know this but for those that don't: There is a competing group of MST3K originals called RiffTrax. They provide riffs on old movies and shorts at their web site, RiffTrax.com. There are some movies to download at CinematicTitanic.com, as well, but RiffTrax has many, many more. While CT has the MST3K founder, Joel Hodgson, I find I enjoy the RT offerings more, all of them feature Mike Nelson, who was the head writer during the Hodgson era and replaced him with Joel left the show. RiffTrax has another offering that sets them apart. Historically MST3K made fun of old movies because 1) they were terrible and 2) they could get the rights to them! But RiffTrax also takes on modern idiotic movies, like the Transformers or Twilight movies, but letting you buy a MP3 file of their riffs for a few dollars that you listen to while watching the DVD of the movie or stream it off Netflix, iTunes, or Amazon. Lastly, RT also does live shows, like CT, and in fact --- for Homeland's benefit --- RiffTrax will doing a live riff of Manos on August 16th that can see in movie theaters across the country. You can buy tickets to see it at the Quality 16 here: http://www.fathomevents.com/originals/event/rifftrax_manos.aspx?utm_source=RiffTrax&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RiffTraxManos Note: I'm not affiliated with RiffTrax in any way, just a very happy customer. I like Cinematic Titanic, was well, so I'm thrilled they're coming to Ann Arbor. RT and CT used to have an unfriendly rivalry but I gather there's less heat in their relationship now.

Homeland Conspiracy

Sun, Jul 1, 2012 : 1:46 p.m.

I can't wait! Wish they would do Manos The Hands Of Fate

Rob Henderson

Sun, Jul 1, 2012 : 11:15 p.m.

It looks like their competitors currently have the rights to do Manos: http://www.fathomevents.com/originals/event/rifftrax_manos.aspx?d=8/16/2012