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Posted on Thu, Mar 10, 2011 : 5:58 a.m.

A Q&A with Patricia Green, Ann Arbor Public Schools' next superintendent

By Kyle Feldscher

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Patricia Green, Ann Arbor's new school superintendent, says she’s ready to listen to parents, students, community members, teachers, staff and anyone else who might have an opinion on Ann Arbor Public Schools.

Patricia Green, the woman selected by the Ann Arbor school board to be the district’s next superintendent, says she’s looking forward to coming to Ann Arbor and listening.

Green, the current superintendent of North Allegheny School District in Pennsylvania, said in an interview Tuesday that she’s ready to listen to parents, students, community members, teachers, staff and anyone else who might have an opinion on Ann Arbor Public Schools.

AnnArbor.com asked readers for input on topics to ask Green about earlier this week. Here are some of those questions and a few others.

Q: You’re coming to a district that is bigger, more ethnically and racially diverse and politically different than your current district. Do you think these variables will present a particular challenge and have you thought to how these differences might impact your work here?

A: It is different than my current district, but I come from being the deputy superintendent in a district in suburban Washington D.C. that had 135,000 students and worked in that district most of my life and my career. It was very diverse; it was urban, suburban and rural. Every socio-economic status well-represented along with every ethnicity — we had 132 languages and an international students guidance office as a cause of that and that’s where I was formed.

…. In terms of the diversity, I embrace diversity. In fact, I was very, very proud being in the Pittsburgh area the North Hills Anti-Racism Coalition Community Outreach awarded me the 2011 Spirit of Unity Award for the work I do in diversity and multiculturalism in the whole Pittsburgh area.

Q: Do you see yourself having a role in advocacy for school funding at the state level and to what extent?

A: One of the things that I am heavily involved in over the last many years that I’ve been here is advocacy. I’ve been going to our state capital in Harrisburg and legislatively testifying. I’ve spoken before the state Board of Education when it comes to regulations. I have established a very good working relationship with our representatives in the House of Representatives, one of which now is the house majority leader, and also with our state senator, who had been the state senate whip.

I also advocate and testify at the national level. I have done that with the reauthorization of No Child Left Behind and I have done that with the last two congressmen and women we have had here and invited them into the district.

Q: What steps do you think should be taken when a teacher, principal or other staff is clearly under-performing? How have you handled this in the past?

A: First of all, that’s something that belongs at the school house level with the principal whose responsibility is observation, evaluations and that’s a process that’s in place there and I’m assuming, knowing Ann Arbor is an NEA (National Education Association) affiliate, that there are processes in place. I have to learn what the processes are in Ann Arbor.

… Let me explain a little bit about here. What I’ve done here and similarly what I’ve done in Prince George’s County, where I was near Washington D.C., is I establish a relationship with the teachers here at the federation — we have AFT (American Federation of Teachers) not NEA — and if there are issues that have to be discussed, we don’t wait until it becomes a major issue, whether it’s an evaluation or whether it’s interpersonal relations with staff members. I embrace the concept that it’s all about kids and children first. We have to make certain what we are all doing is in the best interest of children.

We have to have an ongoing dialogue with everybody on staff: What are the expectations? Are communications clear, making certain of standards on accountability? I am very big on accountability. One of the things I was asked to do when I came into North Allegheny was bring accountability into all of the operations here and we’ve done that, not just with the teachers but also at every level of the organization.

Q: Do you see any overhauls you’re planning on making to AAPS?



Patricia Green

    Green was selected as the next superintendent of Ann Arbor Public Schools by the school board Saturday.
  • Age: 61
  • Current job: Superintendent of North Allegheny School District in Pennsylvania
  • Graduated from the University of Maryland with a bachelor of science degree in elementary education and has also earned a master's degree in human development and a doctorate degree in philosophy in education policy, planning and administration.
  • Began working as a teacher in 1971 in Prince George's County, Maryland. 
  • Starting salary with AAPS will be in the range of $245,000, as set by the school board.
  • Awards received: Outstanding Professional Award by the University of Maryland in 2004, Clarence A. Newell Distinguished Service To Public Education Award from the University of Maryland's school of education in 2008 and the 2011 Spirit  of Unity Award from the North Hills Community Outreach Anti-Racism Coalition.


A: I’m not the kind of person that’s going to make change just to make a change, so there can be my stamp and my imprint and say, “Pat Green did this.” That’s just not my style. I do not know enough about Ann Arbor and the culture. I’ve been there now twice over a three-day period and I would be remiss if I started to say we’re going to do this, we’re going to do that.

… There’s a phrase I used at some time when I was there: Sometimes you have to have the courage to stand up and speak out, but sometimes you have to have the courage to sit down and listen. I’m going to go on a listening tour to work with people and find out more before I can make any judgments. I’m telling you, I would not have applied to Ann Arbor if I didn’t think it was a great district.

Q: You’re obviously coming into a big raise in Ann Arbor. How are you going to be able to deal with budget cuts and ask for shared suffering when the new superintendent’s salary has been a point of contention here in Ann Arbor?

A: I’m not even going to go there. I’m not going to talk about my salary, I haven’t signed a contract yet but I’m clearly not going to discuss my salary.

I do understand the budget, however. I’ve been at it all day and it’s going to be a process in the next couple months before I leave when I bring this budget before the board near the end of May. Our governor today just gave us terrible, terrible news in the state of Pennsylvania, about massive budget cuts to education. We’re going back (into the budget). I thought I had a $6.1 million shortfall I had to figure out how to reduce, but now we could be adding another $2 million to it and those are not easy things.

Q: How do you feel about programs such as talented and gifted programs and other programs for high-level students at the elementary level, something Ann Arbor currently does not have?

A: Again, until I know the lay of the land and know what’s happening and I get a real good feel for why things are the way they are, what programs are there and budget issues, I can’t make a blanket statement. I will say this, however. I have those kind of programs here in the district where I am and when I taught, I was a teacher for 12 years at sixth grade level, and part of my responsibilities was a teacher of the talented and gifted, so I’m familiar with those programs. But, I can’t make a blanket statement until I’m familiar with Ann Arbor’s programs — I’m not even there yet.

Q: What’s your immediate plan for coming in to the district? What can the community expect from you in your immediate takeover?

A: I’ll be out and about and I will be wanting to hear from people. I want to know as much as I can. I’ll be house-hunting. My husband, when we came back on Saturday night, the first thing he did was go online and start looking at houses.

… I just want to be a part of the community as quickly as I can. I want to be seen. I think it’s very important to live in the community. I want to be approached by people and I don’t want people to think I’m a title instead of a person. I always like to say that even though I will be the superintendent and I know I have that title and it puts that aura on a title, I don’t see myself that way. I want to be out shopping in the community, banking in the community. I want to be part of this community not apart from the community.

… I’m not going to make changes until I really, really get to know the community a lot better and anybody who would come in and say other than that shouldn’t have been hired, because I don’t have a crystal ball and I can’t conjecture about what I don’t know yet. What I do know I really enjoy and I wouldn’t have wanted to become a part of Ann Arbor without it. I always say the best is yet to come, but I don’t know what that best will be yet until I learn the level of what is fully in Ann Arbor at this point in time.

Kyle Feldscher covers K-12 education for AnnArbor.com. He can be reached at kylefeldscher@annarbor.com.

Comments

EyeHeartA2

Fri, Mar 11, 2011 : 3:25 p.m.

Actually, on second thought, all Patricia need to do is figure out how to get rid of one teacher and/or maybe a couple of aids and she will have made up the difference between her salary and Todd Roberts.

EyeHeartA2

Fri, Mar 11, 2011 : 3:36 a.m.

"I'm not even going to go there. I'm not going to talk about my salary" ...because it must not be part of the budget? or is it just the untouchable part?

Arno B

Fri, Mar 11, 2011 : 12:08 a.m.

"...Not going to talk about my salary..." !! Well, at over quarter million $ a year I suppose that she might be ashamed of it. However, I now know that I am going to vote NO at the May 3 WISD Election!!

DonBee

Thu, Mar 10, 2011 : 9:44 p.m.

Can you say Politician? I knew you could. Fits well in Ann Arbor's culture.

johnnya2

Thu, Mar 10, 2011 : 7:48 p.m.

She told the story of what she CURRENTLY does. How is that evading the question? I suppose when you take a new job you go in and tell everybody how to do it because you think you are smarter than everybody in the organization. Her making any comment without first hand knowledge would be irresponsible. I prefer people who think about issues an LEARN, then make decisions. Most republicans prefer knee-jerk reactions like the link posted by cash below.

jcj

Thu, Mar 10, 2011 : 8:17 p.m.

While I agree with your logic about her not making any comments until she has some firsthand knowledge. You had to go and spoil it by trying to inject politics into it. I consider myself a conservative Yet I agreed with you on this issue. I am fairly certain KJMClark would line up normally on the liberal side. Yet she was most critical of not getting an answer. Much better to debate each issue on its merits rather than trying to label anyone on either side of the fence!

jcj

Thu, Mar 10, 2011 : 3:23 p.m.

We will have plenty of time and probably plenty of reasons to criticize her later. But I do think it best that she get a better feel for whats going on here before she reveals a plan. Its like asking someone how they like your chili before they have had a taste.

Barb

Thu, Mar 10, 2011 : 2:36 p.m.

This is a nice start but Mr. Feldscher, I hope you come back and ask her some of these same questions (and more) after she's been on the job a while - there's an awful lot of "I don't know yet," which is reasonable but at the same time, I know I'd like to hear her answers after she's had time to get those answers.

Cash

Thu, Mar 10, 2011 : 2:09 p.m.

<a href="http://www.detnews.com/article/20110310/SCHOOLS/103100405/State-senator-targets-Michigan-school-districts-with-flush-rainy-day-funds" rel='nofollow'>http://www.detnews.com/article/20110310/SCHOOLS/103100405/State-senator-targets-Michigan-school-districts-with-flush-rainy-day-funds</a> She'd better read this article!

Lisa

Thu, Mar 10, 2011 : 11:02 p.m.

Cash, WIthout the fund balance, AAPS (and other districts) would have to borrow money (with interest!) to make payroll at certain times of the year because of the timing of the states funding.

Andrew Thomas

Thu, Mar 10, 2011 : 6:02 p.m.

Cash and Kyle, Thank you for bringing this article to my attention; I had not seen it. In my opinion, Sen. Brandenburg does not understand the purpose of a district's fund equity. This is not a &quot;rainy day fund&quot;. It is more of a shock absorber, which gives districts the abilityy to manage their cash flow more effectively. Best practices strongly suggest that districts maintain at least 15% of the operating budget as fund equity, meaning that his figure should be viewed as a floor, not a cap. Hopefully, cooler heads will prevail and this proposal will fall by the wayside.

Cash

Thu, Mar 10, 2011 : 3:39 p.m.

As the law is being rolled out now, that's true.....but it certainly puts a different spin on budgeting for our local schools. I'm not sure how I feel about it.

Kyle Feldscher

Thu, Mar 10, 2011 : 3:31 p.m.

I thought this article you posted was very interesting so I went back and looked at Washtenaw County districts and who would be affected is plan actually became law. Right now, only Dexter Community Schools and Chelsea School District would be affected by this plan.

Susan Montgomery

Thu, Mar 10, 2011 : 12:48 p.m.

Good to see she wants to listen first and learn before making decisions. I think you meant to have &quot;Angela J. Cesere | AnnArbor.com&quot; within the photo caption, not as the start of the first paragraph.

Susan Montgomery

Thu, Mar 10, 2011 : 10:44 p.m.

I see you removed the reference to Angela at the start of the paragraph, yey... but now it looks like she isn't credited for the photo at all?

KJMClark

Thu, Mar 10, 2011 : 12:03 p.m.

Wow. She completely dodged the fair question about a declining budget. She completely talked around it. That really doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, but she's supposed to answer the most relevant questions, not evade them.