bs

Thu, Feb 11, 2010 : 12:47 p.m.

seeing the comments that the story was edited, my comments about folks not reading carefully were incorrect. I agree that editing the story once comments have been posted, should also carry the responsibility of removing comments that were referring to the original, incorrect/incomplete reporting.

Adam Jaskiewicz

Thu, Feb 11, 2010 : 11:29 a.m.

This could have been a lot more tragic than it was; I'm glad to hear the driver of the car has been stabilized and that the firefighter, and the driver in the crash he was responding to, are fine. Be careful out there, people. Take it slow and smooth on snow. Staff, I'm about to get off-topic here, but I think that the following needs to be said: I think there's a big problem here with this "new media" thing in that these stories get posted with incomplete information and then updated later. They become, in essence, living stories; they aren't printed in hard-copy on a page, so there isn't a sense of a "final" copy. I don't have a problem with this; it means I find out about things earlier than I would if I had to wait until you had all of the details to write a story. However, when people comment on the earlier version of a story, it does get rather confusing. This is evidenced by the later comments castigating earlier contributors for "[making] incorrect assumptions" based on outdated information. I'd LOVE for you to do something along the lines of Wikipedia, where you can go back and look at the COMPLETE history of changes that have been made to an article and who made them. This includes new information, grammatical changes, fixed typos, etc., and provides a much-needed sense of transparency. The old versions, while they may contain incorrect information, become historically important as soon as people start reading them and writing responses. Each comment could even have a link to its contemporaneous revision. This would set you apart from most other news sites.

A2

Thu, Feb 11, 2010 : 11:20 a.m.

The article says that the was driving his 2003 Ford Taurus southbound on Dexter-Pinckney Road when he lost control. His car turned broadside, entered the northbound lane and was struck by the fire truck. I'm not sure if he was trying to yelled for the firetruck.. but if he was this is a prefect example of why you do not need to come to a stop or pull over every time a firetruck is coming toward you.. yes you should yelled for the firetruck if they need the room to get by. But in this case it sounds like the firetruck was going north on Dexter-Pinckney and the car was going South and that there was nothing in the path of the firetruck and he is able to get to the call safely.. Again in this example you do not need to come to a complete stop or pull over to the side of the road.. you could cause a larger accident doing so and that may be exactly what happened in this accident.

klac1977

Thu, Feb 11, 2010 : 10:22 a.m.

Thank you for the information - I apologize for getting feisty, I didn't realize that the original story had first been published with other details.

Richard C

Thu, Feb 11, 2010 : 7:35 a.m.

I retract my statement from yesterday. From now on, I will wait to comment until annarbor.com gets all the details straight and fixes all the spelling and gramatical errors.

spm

Thu, Feb 11, 2010 : 7 a.m.

The original story said the driver was passing another car. Also, there was no picture of the fire truck, so the original posters were commenting on what was originally posted without the benefit of a picture to clarify things. I think half of these comments need to be taken off. IMHO.

libertyforall

Wed, Feb 10, 2010 : 10:53 p.m.

The truck was an engine, not a suburban, weighing in at around 28,000 pounds. The poor guy was trying to yield, but lost control, stuff happens, just an accident - no one particularly at fault, no one to blame.

Lynn Lumbard

Wed, Feb 10, 2010 : 10:43 p.m.

I love the comment, "Since only one person was inside the fire truck, and I assume it was the driver"

Marilyn

Wed, Feb 10, 2010 : 10:33 p.m.

I am making a comment about the story that Sherry wrote! I was shocked when I read the piece as the car crash that the Dexter Fire department was responding to was to my daughter-in-law on Dexter Pinckney Rd & Stinchfield Rd. Yes she was injured but it wasn't a fatal truck crash you need to get your information right before you post things like that. So I sure hope you get this straighten out as I wouldn't want any of my family to read this!! I have talked to my son & Daughter-in-law she has a black eye and lots of bruises but nothing like you are reporting, I sure hope everyone who know the true story has it right!!! Thanks Marilyn

M.

Wed, Feb 10, 2010 : 10:28 p.m.

Thanks. Maybe the "updated" portions of stories need to be color coded now haha

DaRyan

Wed, Feb 10, 2010 : 10 p.m.

To be fair to the original posters, the first version of the story said the car struck the fire truck while trying to pass another car.

bs

Wed, Feb 10, 2010 : 9:30 p.m.

" lost control while yielding"... and you said he was "trying to pass"?? of four comments in this thread, every one of them made incorrect assumptions or didn't understand the words they read.. This, folks, is why aa.com shouldn't allow comments at all....

klac1977

Wed, Feb 10, 2010 : 9:30 p.m.

I must not be reading this story correctly because I don't get out of it that the driver of the Taurus was driving recklessly or ignoring the firetruck, nor do I read that anyone in the original call died. For all we know, from this story, the driver of the Taurus was attempting to pull over to the side of the road, to allow the firetruck through, and hit an icy spot, slushy spot, or uneven snow covered spot on the shoulder and lost control and spun out. I wasn't on that road today but I'm sure with around 9" of snow the shoulder is not a fun place to have to pull onto. I have no idea, of course, I'm just saying that instead of judging the driver of the Taurus and assuming he was in the wrong we could look at it the other way and assume that, perhaps, he was thrown out of control in his attempt to abide by the law. Why would this article say that Fire Chief said that no one was injured in the original emergency call if, in fact, the driver had been killed? Doesn't make much sense to me. And, if we're gonna judge and speculate, couldn't we also assume that the driver of the original call was driving too fast or was being unsafe and therefore hit the tree which caused the firetruck to be on the road which caused the Taurus to lose control and the driver to be injured? Just sayin.

bs

Wed, Feb 10, 2010 : 9:27 p.m.

" I'm guessing the fire truck was a Suburban" did you even LOOK at the photo.. do you know what a Suburban looks like?

bs

Wed, Feb 10, 2010 : 9:26 p.m.

" I've seen drivers pull this dangerous stunt before on Dexter-Pinckney"...what "stunt"... and "Putnam Township firefighters responded to the original report of the crash, in which a vehicle went off the road and struck a tree on Stinchfield Woods Road. Putnam Fire Chief Greg Amburgey said the driver was uninjured." would you people please read the article?

Richard C

Wed, Feb 10, 2010 : 7:38 p.m.

"No life threatening injuries"? What does critical condition mean to you? Also it is you're, not your. I am sure the driver of the car that tried to pass would have got there five seconds sooner, now he is not getting there at all. Why are people in such a big rush to get to the next stoplight?

Sherry

Wed, Feb 10, 2010 : 6:15 p.m.

I got a call from a friend who lives out there and the Fire Truck that was on the way to that call and had an accident because people do not heed the sirens and light. What we are not being told is the accident that this Fire Dept. was on it's way to had hit a tree and the driver was killed, the passenger was hurt badly. If your going to give a New Report, please give the report properly. Thank God, no one in either the fire truck or the car who pulled out in front of him had any life threatening injuries. What this news failed to say is that this Fire Truck was on its way to a Fatal Car Accident.

Christina

Wed, Feb 10, 2010 : 4:36 p.m.

People need to respect when emergency vehicles are on the road - I've seen drivers pull this dangerous stunt before on Dexter-Pinckney. I hope the driver is OK, but more importantly, I hope the firefighter is OK, both physically and mentally...