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Posted on Mon, Jun 3, 2013 : 4:37 p.m.

2 men considered 'armed and dangerous' wanted in shooting

By John Counts

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Ricardo Palmer

Courtesy of Pittsfield police

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Lester Palmer

Courtesy of Pittsfield Township

The time of the incident has been corrected.

Pittsfield Township police issued a wanted poster Monday afternoon for two Ypsilanti men wanted in connection with a shooting Sunday night.

Ricardo Von Palmer, 38, and his brother Lester Jay Palmer, 39, are considered armed and dangerous, according to police.

Police believe the two men are responsible for the shooting of a 45-year-old man in the 3500 block of Fieldcrest Lane around 10:59 p.m. Sunday, said Pittsfield Public Safety Director Matt Harshberger.

The shooting incident was preceded by an argument the 45-year-old victim had with his girlfriend. Three men -- including the Palmer brothers -- soon ended up at the residence, Harshberger said.

“It started out as a domestic violence situation with the victim and a woman at the residence,” Harshberger said.

The man was shot once through the legs, according to police. The three suspects then fled.

The victim and suspects were known to each other, but Harshberger did not want to elaborate on their relationship.

Police are looking for the Palmers and trying to identify the third suspect. The Palmers are believed to frequent several locations in the Pittsfield and Ypsilanti area, Harshberger said. Ricardo Palmer is about five foot eight inches tall and 215 pounds. Lester Palmer is six foot two inches tall and 250 pounds.

Anyone with information about this incident is asked to call the Pittsfield Township police non-emergency line at (734) 822-4911 or the anonymous tip line at (734) 822-4958.

John Counts covers cops and courts for AnnArbor.com. He can be reached at johncounts@annarbor.com or you can follow him on Twitter.

Comments

nickcarraweigh

Tue, Jun 4, 2013 : 12:17 p.m.

What a lucky break that the cops had these photos already on hand. And they don't look like driver's licenses IDs, either.

fishjamaica

Tue, Jun 4, 2013 : 3:32 a.m.

John, can we get a larger pic of the Velvet Guy? For identification purposes of course (and maybe a little entertainment value).

John Counts

Tue, Jun 4, 2013 : 1:02 a.m.

You are right, Walking Joe. I got my wires crossed with the two incidents. This one was reported around 11 p.m. Sunday night. The story has been corrected.

WalkingJoe

Tue, Jun 4, 2013 : 1:09 a.m.

Thanks John. Like I said we live nearby and this is worrisome. Going to be more alert.

WalkingJoe

Mon, Jun 3, 2013 : 11:50 p.m.

John, since I live near this incident (less than two blocks) I am wondering about the time. In this mornings article it was said the shooting occurred at 11pm and another accidental shooting occurred at 2:27am. My wife and I heard sirens at 11. Could you clear this up?

WalkingJoe

Tue, Jun 4, 2013 : 12:36 a.m.

A down vote for asking for clarification? Really?

lynel

Mon, Jun 3, 2013 : 11:39 p.m.

Who's the dude in the green velvet in the picture?

John

Tue, Jun 4, 2013 : 6:57 p.m.

@fish Maybe he plays fingerstyle classical guitar. Can't a guy flamenco without being stereotyped? Geez.

fishjamaica

Tue, Jun 4, 2013 : 3:30 a.m.

Exactly. Armed, Dangerous, and Verdantly Velvet. Check out his fingernails in that pic.

JRW

Mon, Jun 3, 2013 : 8:43 p.m.

I've always wondered about these anonymous tip lines. If you call in from a cell phone, isn't your number recorded, and therefore it's not an anonymous tip? Just curious. Hope these thugs are caught soon.

Urban Sombrero

Tue, Jun 4, 2013 : 5:50 p.m.

Unfortunately, we don't get a breakdown of calls on our (shared) bill because we have unlimited calls.

a2citizen

Tue, Jun 4, 2013 : 12:32 p.m.

Did you look at the incoming calls on your husbands phone bill? You might get lucky...I've seen it happen.

Urban Sombrero

Tue, Jun 4, 2013 : 12:10 p.m.

@a2citizen, well then Verizon lied to me! We were getting "blocked" calls repeatedly on my husband's phone and we called Verizon to see who it was (we're pretty sure we know) and they said there was no way for them to tell us who it is.

a2citizen

Tue, Jun 4, 2013 : 3:24 a.m.

btw, you may also try this test for yourself. Make a *67 call then see if the number shows up on your bill in the section where your minutes are itemized. The numbers show up in mine, though I don't have Verizon. But the telcos all use the same software.

a2citizen

Tue, Jun 4, 2013 : 3:16 a.m.

Urban, I worked on central office telephone switches for over 20 years, including those at Verizon offices. Go to Wikipedia and look for "call detail record". That's the info that is kept by telco. After you read that, then go to this article in wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_call_database

Urban Sombrero

Tue, Jun 4, 2013 : 1:37 a.m.

@a2citizen, that's not true. I have a very good friend who's in law enforcement and I asked him about that. He said the number is blocked, period. That was also confirmed by Verizon when I asked them about it.

a2citizen

Tue, Jun 4, 2013 : 12:01 a.m.

*67 blocks your number to the phone being called. The phone company still has the information.

Urban Sombrero

Mon, Jun 3, 2013 : 11:18 p.m.

Dialing *67 blocks your number.

cinnabar7071

Mon, Jun 3, 2013 : 9:29 p.m.

Call from a pay phone, I still see these around.