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Posted on Mon, Aug 10, 2009 : 6:30 p.m.

Leigh Greden files for recount; Washtenaw County Clerk's Office says change in results unlikely

By Ryan J. Stanton

Ann Arbor City Councilman Leigh Greden filed for a recount this afternoon of all 3rd Ward ballots cast in last Tuesday's Democratic primary election.

Greden, D-3rd Ward, is hoping to pick up six or more votes after losing to challenger Stephen Kunselman, 511-505. LuAnne Bullington received 381 votes.

“My supporters are urging me to request a recount because of the very close margin,” Greden said. “I owe it to them to pursue this. We learned from last year's recount, which a candidate requested even though there was a much larger margin, that the final vote count can change, although not by many votes.”

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There were 1,415 ballots cast in the 3rd Ward, but only 1,411 votes were counted, according to official election results. That leaves some wondering whether four ballots were left blank, or if there were votes on those ballots that were not counted by the electronic tabulators.

Even if all four ballots turn out in Greden's favor, he still would need another two votes to tie Kunselman. According to County Clerk Larry Kestenbaum, that likely won't happen.

“It's unlikely that we're going to see any change,” he said. “Whoever has the most votes to begin with is the one likely to prevail. Typically what you see in a recount is candidates won't lose votes, they'll gain votes. The votes they got to begin with, they're unlikely to lose.”

Kestenbaum said he doesn't blame Greden for requesting a recount. He said six votes is a pretty narrow margin to lose by, and it's worth double checking.

“It's a little bit extra trouble for us but it's not that big of a deal,” he said.

Kestenbaum said he's tentatively looking at Aug. 27 as the date for the recount. He said it should be done in one day.

Overseeing the recount will be the four members of the county's Board of Canvassers, which includes two Democratic representatives and two Republicans. The two Democrats are Ully Roth and Weston Vivian; the two Republicans are Melody Gable and Kim Porter-Hoppe.

The recount will be conducted in the meeting room in the basement of the county offices at 200 N. Main St. in downtown Ann Arbor. Kestenbaum said election inspectors will be counting ballots by hand and separating them into piles for each candidate.

Because Michigan is not a voter-intent state, a ballot must be properly filled out with a written mark inside the correct oval for it to count. Votes will be thrown out if, for example, the oval next to a candidate's name was circled or a check mark was made next to a candidate's name.

Greden paid $60 for the recount, $10 per consolidated precinct.

Ryan Stanton covers government for AnnArbor.com. He can be reached at (734) 623-2529 or ryanstanton@annarbor.com.

Comments

B Smith

Wed, Aug 12, 2009 : 8:20 a.m.

Greden is a sore loser. Good riddance.

MjC

Tue, Aug 11, 2009 : 12:08 p.m.

What's wrong with having a system that gets the first count done accurately?

Peregrine

Tue, Aug 11, 2009 : 10:09 a.m.

@corazon: The costs of democracy are not outrageous. It is important that we get the correct counts. In my mind this was demonstrated at least twice in the last decade, most recently in the 2008 Minnesota Senate election recount, which turned the results from a Coleman win to a Franken win. And of course in 2000 five members of the Supreme Court shut down a recount, which may very well have overridden the choice of Americans for their president. Do you complain about the costs each and every time, or only when it threatens an original outcome that you prefer?

Ryan J. Stanton

Tue, Aug 11, 2009 : 9:12 a.m.

In case you missed it, this was a guest opinion we had on the recount that garnered some discussion: http://www.annarbor.com/news/opinion/is-sportsmanship-for-losers/

corazon

Tue, Aug 11, 2009 : 8:51 a.m.

$60 payment for so many man-hours of labor? Outrageous! Mr. Greden, if you win the recount, you should be faced by a write-in campaign for Mr. Kunselman. My advice to Mr. Greden: move on with your life. There is real life after elected office.

Rod Johnson

Mon, Aug 10, 2009 : 10:20 p.m.

Yeah, you owe it to your supporters. It's simply unimaginable you'd be doing it for yourself. You're a saint, Leigh.

stan

Mon, Aug 10, 2009 : 6:39 p.m.

Wow, can you imagine if the four votes do go to Greden making the margin only 2? This is a good demonstration of why voting matters and every vote counts.