Booradley

Fri, Jun 18, 2010 : 1:46 p.m.

Hopeandfaith. I guess you're having a problem with some of what I said. I could go into a scholarly speech here but I won't since it will take up too much space and this is not the place to do it. My comment about not expecting the government to take care of you is based on the fact that many immigrants who move here come from socialized countries. These countries, because of the higher taxes they collect, they pay (to some extent) for their people's health care, housing, and education -- depending on the country. We are not a socialized country, therefore, it is important that you understand that we help those who are truly needed but encourage self-sufficiency and not be totally dependent on government. Legal immigrants have opportunities to stay in this country if they want to go through the process of becoming a citizen. But even as a legal immigrants they have the right to have their talents be known and utilize that allows them to contribute to a good life for themselves, their families and their community. As to my comment regarding culture. I have to ask what Reservation are you from? I think you know, and least I hope you know, we have progressed since then, and you can't live like its the past. If you want to think things are still the same way as in the past then you have become a slave to history. Does this help you?

Davidian

Fri, Jun 18, 2010 : 8:52 a.m.

This is the type of news that makes me believe our country is going in the right direction.....yet ever so slowly. Deport all illegal immigrants now! And yes, I DO have my paperwork!!

HopeAndFaith

Thu, Jun 17, 2010 : 2:59 p.m.

@Booradley, you stated: 'Immigrants who enter this country through legal means are welcome. Once you come here you now have opportunities that all Americans have.' This is not true! There are immigrants that come here under varying status' and documents. Not all of those coming here will be granted citizenship and all the rights that come with it. For example, those that enter the United States under temporary protection status, may not be eligible to apply for citizenship. And there are quotas on immigration for numbers and countries and there are back-logs etc etc etc And if you don't come from a country deemed of political importance to the US, you probably will not be allowed to become a citizen. For example, Canadian citizens are gaining American citizen in less than a year, in most cases within 6 months; however, if you are immigrating from a Latin American country, you will be waiting 10 years, just to be denied. You said: 'One thing you must remember, our country was founded on virtues of respect for others and taking care of yourself -- not expecting the government to take care of you.' I don't see how immigrants are expecting the government to take care of them. Most of the immigrants and their families are hard working and do not have any assistance from the government. 'You may be maintaining some family traditions and cultural values but you will also need to understand that our country has traditions, laws and cultural values that you need to learn in order to be a functioning member of society.' I believe this is the same attitude that was used when the US was ripped Native American children from their families and shipping them off to boarding schools to become white.

Booradley

Thu, Jun 17, 2010 : 12:14 p.m.

Immigrants who enter this country through legal means are welcome. Once you come here you now have opportunities that all Americans have. One thing you must remember, our country was founded on virtues of respect for others and taking care of yourself -- not expecting the government to take care of you. You may be maintaining some family traditions and cultural values but you will also need to understand that our country has traditions, laws and cultural values that you need to learn in order to be a functioning member of society. I welcome legal immigrants to this nation and may you have a long and happy life here.

lobos

Thu, Jun 17, 2010 : 11:20 a.m.

@dading Yeah, let's see there are 8 million undocumented people in the USA and they don't want a soc. # so that they can buy a house, buy a car, and get a job with security to provide for their families. Nope, your right they want to live under the radar in a country where they don't always understand the language and navigate that land illegally! Hmm, this sounds like so much fun, I think that I should try it and move to Russia! But wait the United States government makes it so easy for people to become legal that people can just go down to their local five and dime a get a green card! Your right! lol! I will let all my friends know! Also, just so you know because my convo. is not all that intelligent (so u say), My sister-law is a Chinese immigration lawyer who works to help with all kinds of people legal and undocumented. I have helped and read a lot on immigration laws and have filled out many applications. Furthermore I would like to say that there are many peoples from all over the world that are here undocumented not just Latinos. Thanks, to @mbarak for putting everything so eloquently and in the right prospective, u hit the nail on the head!

HopeAndFaith

Thu, Jun 17, 2010 : 10:23 a.m.

mbarak is correct. Thank you for having an understanding of the true issues surrounding immigration. Secondly, many of these individuals enter the United States and have documented status. However, due to inconsistancies in the immigration process and major issues with the system, these individuals find themselves documented one day and undocumented the next day. There are many individuals that have been living in the United States for decades or almost their entire lives, but for a variety of reasons didn't or were unable to be currently documented. Our country opens it's borders freely, however, as soon as the economy tanks we go after the 'easy' targets - those that are different, those that are of color, those that speak a different language.... 'those people'. Many individuals that are currently living within the United States and are not documented are eliglible for some form of documentation - visas, temporary protective status, citizenship; however, our immigration system is so messed up, it can take a lifetime to gain those documents/status. Most of the Latino workers that do construction/roofing in this area make approximately $13 to $18 an hour. This is in line with what the average roofer makes in the United States. http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/layouthtmls/swzl_compresult_national_sc16000245.html They have taxes and social security taken from each paycheck just like any other worker within the United States. These individuals are not working under the table, they pay taxes and do not even recieve the benefits from paying them. If hurt, they are paying out of pocket for doctor and hospital expense. You say that it is coming out of taxpayers' pockets?!? I would wage that there are more individuals with American citizenship utilizing hosptials for medical care and not paying their bills than those of Latino decent without documentation. Also, the claim that they are utilizing stolen social security numbers and documents doesn't pan out. Many individuals, who had documented status and lost it because of problems in the system, have social security numbers legally issued to them. Crossing the border without documents is a civil infraction, not a criminal infraction.

Graz

Thu, Jun 17, 2010 : 6:37 a.m.

I should also mention that the first immigrants to this country mostly took the land by force. The ones following after just got on a ship and came here to start a life. Even those that came through Ellis Island just bought a ticket and showed up. They were allowed to stay as long as they weren't sick and could answer 29 questions that were deemed to prove that they weren't criminals. That was, unless you had a first class ticket meaning you were affluent...then you were ushered right through the gate. The present immigration process is quite a bit more onerous than that.

Graz

Thu, Jun 17, 2010 : 6:27 a.m.

I can see that the sleight-of-hand is working well. Certain folks in the media and political commentators have all these people up in arms about a problem that, although needs fixing, isn't the danger to our way of life that it's being made out to be. But's that okay, keep arguing about how people that were brought here as a child and are contributing need to be sent back to a place they don't know, or how the person doing menial labor needs to be thrown out of the country. While you're distracted with this, the politicians will continue to sell our government to the highest bidder and reduce regulations so that "multinational" companies can destroy oceans for years. But keep listening to the guy that getting paid millions a year by corporations to talk on TV and radio about how that immigrant is truly the one that is tearing the fabric of our nation instead of how a lobbyist having more say in how our country is run than us is destroying the country that I swore an oath to protect. We need to correct the illegal immigration problem in an intelligent and workable manner, but at the same time, we should be more concerned with who our government is working for....We the People or the Board of Directors that send their money to the Cayman Islands instead of paying taxes.

fisherman

Thu, Jun 17, 2010 : 12:06 a.m.

@mbarak Thank you for your thought-provoking words. I can only imagine how a young person must feel who has grown up in this country, knows no other culture, and who is suddenly yanked away from family and friends to be sent to a land totally foreign. This is truly not a conservative nor liberal issue, but rather an issue of humanity vs. inhumanity, in many cases.

Jay Thomas

Wed, Jun 16, 2010 : 9:32 p.m.

@MBarak: There are no civil wars in Central America at present and yet the tide of migrants continues. If there were any I'm sure you would blame them on us. EVERYTHING is our fault to people of a certain political persuasion. We did the wrong thing... we don't do enough... whatever. Hence, the usual, "you need to read the books I read." It's never enough and the other party in the equation is always magically rendered blameless as we continue to go bankrupt trying to save the world. @Lobos: Way to win over people! The typical American is ignorant and arrogant... but owes the world a living. Based on your English, I'm not buying your story; but keep fighting the good fight for the downtrodden. After all it doesn't cost you anything. If El Salvadorans make their children work, why are you projecting that on US instead of calling THEM out for it. The usual blame America only rhetoric. You are right that US immigration is racist. Between legal and illegal immigration four out five migrants are now coming from Latin America and THAT'S NOT FAIR. It's discriminatory against the Asians, Africans and others who who were supposed to be given an equal proportion of immigrants by the 1965 immigration act. But what can we do? It's like those guys in the Humphrey Bogart film, Treasure of the Sierra Madre. "Laws... we don't observe no stinking laws." @Malorie: It's nice that you view yourself as a citizen of the world; provided that you aren't trying to FORCE your open borders social vision of the world on the rest of us. Which it looks like you are. We have 3 million MORE border jumpers every year, who behave just as if what you said was the law of the land. We have to educate them, employ them, medicate them and even imprison them. I think some people won't be happy until unlimited immigration from an overpopulated world reduces us to a veritable third world country as well. Illegal aliens have murdered, killed, run over (DUI) close to a hundred thousand Americans in just the past decade alone. Meanwhile we do nothing to secure our borders as mandated by the constitution. But we'll wage endless wars in other parts of the globe if you kill 3000 of us at one time. Perfectly sane, eminently sensible. God Bless America.

M.

Wed, Jun 16, 2010 : 5:54 p.m.

JSA - That is the problem RIGHT there. You see our country as OUR country. You don't see us as a vast community of human beings who care about each other as a whole. You share no connection with people around the world and you do not wish to, but some people do not see class or race or country, they see human, like themselves. The people who are sympathizing with the immigrants are the people who realize this and want to help their fellow man in need. We have one of the most stable, safe, and opportunistic countries in the world regardless of how you feel we are doing at the moment. You forget to compare us to countries less fortunate. We are so spoiled as a nation I can hardly believe it.

Lokalisierung

Wed, Jun 16, 2010 : 1:41 p.m.

"I guess it's time to change the inscription on the Statue of liberty....any suggestions?" Sure why not, we've changed the Constitution more than a couple times, and I'm proud of those changes.

JSA

Wed, Jun 16, 2010 : 11:14 a.m.

Lobos, you need to get into the real world. You can bemoan the fact that the world is not perfect but nowhere does it says the US must solve all the worlds problems. The simple fact is that we have enough problems that require tax dollars to fix for are own citizens that we do not need to spend them on illegals nor do we need to have to pay to incarcerate them and the damage done by the crimes they commit. Learn to accept the world as it is, try to change it if you can, but are in a small minority here and need to learn to live with it.

mbarak

Wed, Jun 16, 2010 : 11:10 a.m.

As someone raised in Ann Arbor, I am deeply ashamed by some of the comments my fellow Ann Arborites have posted. Before passing judgement on individuals one does not know, or commenting on immigration policies or civil and/or criminal law one does not comprehend, serious research, reflection, and contemplation should occur. I want to point out the entering the United States without documents is not a criminal offense. I also want to point out that undocumented workers employed in the formal sector do have taxes deducted from their wages, yet are ineligible for public benefits such as Medicaid, welfare, and social security that said taxes pay for. Furthermore, those with "legal" access to enter the United States often have to wait more than 20 years for an Immigrant Visa (and this is for direct family members) due to our quota system. By the time their number comes up, personal and or social circumstances may have changed (such as children who grow into adults, marry, and start their own families in their home countries or immigrants who came to the United States as political refugees during the 1980's and early 1990's when many Central American countries were experiencing dangerous civil wars who are now being told to return to Central America because the civil wars haven ended after spending 20+ years in America) that make them ineligible for an Immigrant Visa. Finally, some people are brought to the United States as children, sometimes mere babies, without documents. They are raised in the United States, may not speak any languages other than English, and were unable to participate in the decision to enter the U.S. without documents. Can we really call these people criminals? Should they really be exiled to their "countries of origin" after only ever knowing the United States? Immigration is a highly complex issue that cannot be handled lightly, nor be solved by miseducation, misunderstandings, or discrimination. We must never forget to question the information we receive -be it from the media, from respected colleagues, or from trusted friends and family. We must critically analyze our laws, policies, and personal or societal perceptions of others: Who has created these laws and policies? For what were they created? Where do these perceptions stem from? Are there any truths to them? What role does power play in these legal constructions? In these identity constructions? Who comes out ahead as a result? Who suffers? I encourage all those interested to check out some of these resources: -Border Games: Policing the U.S.-Mexico Divide by Peter Andreas -Mexican Lives by Judith Adler Hellman -The closing of the American border : terrorism, immigration, and security since 9/11 by Edward Alden -Operation Gatekeeper : the rise of the "illegal alien" and the making of the U.S.-Mexico boundary by Joseph Nevins -The Devil's Highway by Luis Alberto Urrea -Subcommittee on Government Management, Information, and Technology of the Committee on Government Reform and Oversight. 1997. U.S. Border Patrols Implementation of Operation Gatekeeper, from the Second Session of the One Hundred and Fourth Congress of the House of Representatives. Washington, DC: U.S. Government Printing Office. And these articles on Border Patrol -even U.S. Customs and Border Patrol does not always view undocumented persons as "criminals,": -BORSTAR (Border Patrol Search, Trauma, and Rescue Team) History http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/border_security/border_patrol/special_oper/borstar/borstar_history.xml -Rescue Beacon Saves Illegal Alien Left in Ariz. Desert http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/newsroom/news_releases/archives/2008_news_releases/march_2008/03172008_2.xml

dading dont delete me bro

Wed, Jun 16, 2010 : 10:39 a.m.

@lobos, when you get educated about the 'system' you can then contribute inteligently. they are offered help and direction, but refuse. maybe they should go pick my coffee and let the 8 year old in el salvador enjoy being a kid? -dading

lobos

Wed, Jun 16, 2010 : 10:26 a.m.

Shame, Shame, to all of you who against the poor and downtrodden who come here to seek a better life for themselves and their children. As usual I am not surprised to hear the ignorance and arrogance of a typical American. Let me set the record straight for DADING (the one who likes potatoes)THOSE WHO COME HERE AS UNDOCUMENTED are POOR, and cannot come through the legal path to become a legal alien. BECAUSE THE IMMIGRATION POLICIES ABOUT WHO CAN BE LEGAL ARE BASED ON WHO HAS MONEY AND EDUCATION. US immigration policies are discriminatory and racists. Further more if any of you couch potatoes read a book about imperialism, world economics and US politics in Latin America. YOU would know that WE have created some of the economic hardships for these people. YOU like your CHEAP COFFEE that a 8 year old in EL SALVADOR picked for you RIGHT? I wonder whether or not u people have a moral compass or not and how many are hypocrites and go to church every week?? Does anyone remember what happen in Germany? The Germans where experiencing a bad economy and they chose to persecute and target a group of people they saw as a threat. Does anyone know that ICE takes people in the middle of the night and early morning and whisks them away to detention centers that are a secret and children come home to find their parents gone and are put in foster homes. As a native born ANN ARBORITE, I hope that we continue to be the community that we have always been one that celebrates our diversity,liberty,and freedom for all.

Mousedeva

Wed, Jun 16, 2010 : 8:32 a.m.

The reason companies will hire "illegals" is b/c they work for cheaper and are usually more willing to take such jobs then the rest of us.....also, if the immigration laws and way to citizenry were less difficult of a process, then maybe more immigrants would take the legal route...unfortunately there's a lot of red tape and years of paperwork! go figure.

treetowncartel

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 10:02 p.m.

Voting early and often is a classic phrase from a great organizer. I don't want to ruin the surprise so google it. Anotherbtakenonitnis tell the people you know about the fools and scoundrels ready tomake their positions they offfer every chance you get. That way you can educate the suffrage

dading dont delete me bro

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 9:58 p.m.

You can get much further with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone. - al capone

treetowncartel

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 9:51 p.m.

Voting early and often is a classic phrase from a great organizer. I don't want to ruin the surprise so google it. Anotherbtakenonitnis tell the people you know about the fools and scoundrels ready tomake their positions they offfer every chance you get. That way you can educate the suffrage

kelsey

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 9:38 p.m.

Personally, I have known many illegal aliens (and their children) in my lifetime.Maybe 2 percent were involved in drugs, but 98 percent of them just work, work, work, and send money home--and spend it here as well. I'd prefer to send a couple of US-born career welfare recipients, or those pandhandlers on Main Street, or a US-born incarcerated individual down to Guatemala/Costa Rica and keep these guys. They're young, probably healthy, and like I said-- just work, work, work.

dading dont delete me bro

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 9:37 p.m.

trouble is these illegals don't cooperate. they plea to the liberal public to feel sorry for them. they are shown how to become legal and DON'T. (i know) @treetowncartel, "...I voted libertarian in the past few elections often and early." how are you able to vote OFTEN? multiple x's per election...?

nekkidfish

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 9:30 p.m.

The roofing company in question does not employ these people. The roofing company uses sub-contractors to do the work and it's the sub-contractors who are employing the illegals. I am sure the roofing company knows about this but can legally claim innocence. The sub-contractors are paying around $8-$10 an hour. Their employees are usually not covered by any type of insurance like workers comp. So when someone falls off the roof we all pay. Go after the sub-contractors.

Jay Thomas

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 9:21 p.m.

@ David Briegel. I'm not sure if you are reading from a script -- or what the problem is -- but we are obviously not reading the same page of comments. Not only has no one said that they should not be prosecuted, I see comment after comment calling for action against the employers (mine included). Your comments in this context are absolutely bizarre. Looking at what you've written here... and based on your past comments about how you believe the tea party folks are only protesting because we have a black President (in a country founded on a tax revolt no less), I can only assume that EVERYTHING is racial with you. Sad

treetowncartel

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 9:20 p.m.

Oohh, i'm a Liberal opponent because I think immigration can be a regulated processs that allows everyone coming here to be gainfully employed, including a documented alien. If that isn't an oxymoron.... We'll.! I voted libertarian in the past few elections often and early. Contribute to my countries needs, just like I do every April 15. Enter my country lawfully and I'll respect the promise of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness fior all. Heck( I hope I can use that term here) and i will even buy you a beer!

treetowncartel

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 9:12 p.m.

Oohh, i'm a Liberal opponent because I think immigration can be a regulated processs that allows everyone coming here to be gainfully employed, including a documented alien. If that isn't an oxymoron.... We'll.! I voted libertarian in the past few elections often and early. Contribute to my countries needs, just like I do every April 15. Enter my country lawfully and I'll respect the promise of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness fior all. Heck( I hope I can use that term here) and i will even buy you a beer!

M.

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 8:56 p.m.

Agreed with John Galt. I am pleased to see an employer mentioned, but the article just states the agents arrested one of their targets there. Is the employer facing investigation and punishment???

dading dont delete me bro

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 8:51 p.m.

to all of those wanting to take the employers to task, could you point out to me where, in the story, these men were employed? either legally or illegally?!?

David Briegel

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 7:06 p.m.

I used the term "social justice" to get your goat and it worked. You exposed your true motives. Justice would be equal justice under our laws. You simply will not under any circumstances put the WHITE, upper class lawbreakers in jail. You will punish the cheap labor demanded by the criminals but NOT the WHITE criminals. Phonies ALL! It is not just one roofing company. It is all the lawn companies, housekeeping services, nannies, and on and on! You use this issue to beat up on liberals and progressives and the poor and the minorities but NOT the criminals! Imagine the foolishness of your lack of consistency! When, oh when will you address the true problem??

AnneB

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 6:48 p.m.

The employers are criminals, too. Arrest them.

Marshall Applewhite

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 6:31 p.m.

Bottom line, we wouldn't be having this conversation if union labor actually added a corresponding amount of value to the given product. I'm all for fair market wages, but can you really blame an employer for hiring guys who will produce 3x more than a union laborer in the same timespan? Furthermore, he will never have to hear the words, "That's not my job!" ever again.........kind of a win-win.

uawisok

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 6:23 p.m.

The immigration situation in this country is in a sad state and speaks to our continued decline as a society. Not because of undocumented workers but because of a system that creates hardship on the impoverished immigrant and streamlines the wealthy immigrant. Chances are 80% of the immigrants that come here 100 years ago would not be documented either in todays USA, that includes my relatives from Europe.We exploit any thing and every one and call it capitalism or just "good buisness", you will never see buisness owners penalized and rounded up they way they do undocumented workers!! They same greed that drives the drug war drives the undocumented worker human trade...it has become a buisness and is driven by Americans with walmart mentality ie, "I don't care how it's made or who is exploited I just want it cheap".

John Galt

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 4:52 p.m.

I'm sure the employer had trouble finding legal citizens to do that work (you know, with the 15 percent unemployment rate and all....) The name of the roofing company should be published. I know it's an unfounded allegation (the news can state it as such), but we should know who it is and make sure to exercise our right to sent work to another company (if we chose---or illegal supporters can patronize the business if they want, too).

treetowncartel

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 4:22 p.m.

@UAW, I think those people coming through Ellis Island were all documented...ironically enough, the cheap labor supply provided by undocumented workers is probably resulting in a high casualty of what could be, or may have been, union jobs, That would have dues going to create more of those cherished union hall positions, like business represntative.

Jay Thomas

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 4:20 p.m.

Social justice is fixing your own country and not expecting the world to provide for you. The employers should be heavily fined and prosecuted. Most of them know what's up here. Every President (of both parties) claims to defend the constitution, but conveniently ignores the part about securing the country's borders (which is actually doable despite what the media says).

YpsiLivin

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 4:12 p.m.

Employers need to be held accountable for their hiring. They're not innocent in this and they know darned well when they're hiring an illegal alien. Employers that furnish an illegal alien with a job should be billed for the cost of ICE enforcement and deportation, and they should be fined $50,000 per incident whenever they're caught. Further, the business should be subjected to an immediate audit of all employees and should have to produce proper paperwork for everyone on the payroll.

uawisok

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 4:10 p.m.

"Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she ' With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" I guess it's time to change the inscription on the Statue of liberty....any suggestions?

ffej440

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 3:49 p.m.

I'm sure the employer had the correct paperwork, but it was probobly fake. The law does not require an employer to run the paperwork through the fed check system, only then do you KNOW the name and soc number match. Why do the feds not require every employer to use the system? The system works online so its easy to use.Maybe its all the unclaimed tax revenue paid in but never claimed?

djm12652

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 3:29 p.m.

@Topcat...you know the old saying in regards to social justice...?... If you rob Peter to pay Paul... You can always count on Paul's vote! On a different note, the "employers" should also be held accountable for their criminal, and yes known and intended, hiring practices. I know what documentation is required to prove worker eligibility and I'm not a "large company" with a HR Department...

Stephen Landes

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 2:31 p.m.

Congratulations to our ICE agents. I hope they continue to help us uphold our laws. If these men were employed then their employers should also be arrested and tried for their complicity in violating our immigrations laws.

Top Cat

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 2:11 p.m.

"Social Justice" is a term that the Left just loves. I think it means concocting some new "right" or "entitlement" so The Government can give something to someone who didn't earn it in the expectation that this bribe will buy a vote in the next election.

treetowncartel

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 1:35 p.m.

Anyone calling for social justice on this issue should step up to the plate and alleviate the tax burden on the rest of your fellow countrymen. This can be done by Volunteering to pay for some of the social services they illegal imigrants use which in turn depletes those services for the citizens of the USA whoare not getting their full share...what is that old saying, put your money where your mouth is or something like that.

David Briegel

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 1:26 p.m.

cinnabar and eyeheart, not to worry, employers are safe. There is no "social justice" allowed in America!

scooter dog

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 1:09 p.m.

Who's employing them! Duh anyone for some landscape work or maybe some fast food ect

Ali

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 12:35 p.m.

uawisok wrote:"Let's see stay in my native bannana republic and chance my family getting killed on a daily basis by drug lords, corrupt goverment police or migrate "illegally" to USA...i would migrate too to protect my family and their future." -------------- And who made it a banana republic in the first place? Maybe YOU and others like you who tolerated corruption even in "little things" which became "big things" and see nothing wrong with breaking OUR laws because it suits you? Of course, if you can come here illegally, those drug lords and gangs are able to do so, too, and guess where they'll most likely take cover--in "immigrant" communities. And RTFM, quite likely these guys were ordered removed from the U.S. because they were here ILLEGALLY. No other reason needed. They already had their day in court and are among the 600,000+ fugitives ICE is seeking.

John Galt

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 12:30 p.m.

Good Job. They should also investigate who was employing them for potential violations of labor laws/SSN fraud.

uawisok

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 12:07 p.m.

Let's see stay in my native bannana republic and chance my family getting killed on a daily basis by drug lords, corrupt goverment police or migrate "illegally" to USA...i would migrate too to protect my family and their future.

Mikey2u

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : 12:01 p.m.

Thanks ICE. Keep-up the good work!

djm12652

Tue, Jun 15, 2010 : noon

I often wonder when some people are so willing to break immigration laws, what other laws are are they willing to ignore? Not just civil but criminal laws....If people want to immigrate to our Great Nation, following the legal procedures will get a warm welcome from me. However, if entry is done illegally, I have no welcomes put forth for criminals. If they want to come back, do it the way so many before them, including my ancestors, have done.