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Posted on Thu, Nov 3, 2011 : 9:39 p.m.

Immigration rights groups rally against deportation during Day of the Dead event in downtown Ann Arbor

By Julie Baker

Community members rallied against the deportation of immigrants Thursday with a speeches and a march to the Federal Building in downtown Ann Arbor.

Some participants painted their faces as skeletons in recognition of El Dia de Los Muertos, or the Day of the Dead, during the rally organized by Washtenaw Interfaith Coalition for Immigrant Rights and the University of Michigan’s Social Work Alliance for Immigrant Rights group.

The rally highlighted the struggle of Lourdes Salazar Bautista — an Ann Arbor woman and mother of three children — as part of an ongoing deportation problem in Washtenaw County. Bautista, who came to the U.S. from Mexico in 1997, is facing deportation Dec. 27 after being detained by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement for a month in July 2010. He husband was deported last year.

Laura Sanders, one of the co-founders of WICIR, said Bautista’s supporters are hoping to stop Lourdes’ deportation by calling attention to her case and asking people to speak out. Organizers circulated petitions against her deportation at the rally and handed out flyers asking participants to contact the Department of Homeland Security and ICE on Bautista’s behalf.

“We hope that with enough attention we can stop this,” Sanders said.

Bautista’s case is just one part of WICIR's efforts. The group responds to detainments and raids affecting hundreds in Washtenaw County, she said.

Speaking through a translator at the rally, Bautista, holding a sign that read “Death to broken families,” described how her father used to talk about his dream to come to the U.S. someday. She said she’s worked hard to support her three children — ages 7, 9 and 13 — who are U.S. citizens.

Rally participants spoke against deportation, saying it pulls apart families. Marchers chanted, “People united will never be defeated,” and “Stop deportation.”

Bautista said her deportation will divide her family. She wants her children to stay in the U.S. because it’s all they know.

St. Mary Student Parish, 331 Thompson St., will hold a candlelight vigil for Bautista and her family at 7 p.m. Friday, Nov. 11.


Lac Court Orilles

Sat, Nov 5, 2011 : 10:43 a.m.

Illegal immigrants enrolled in Michigan public schools receive free breakfasts, free lunches, and many other services that native born American students cannot have. Teachers are required to keep their mouths shut and educate them or else face termination. If our Republican government in Michigan wanted to be serious about saving money, they could investigate all of the illegal alien children enrolled in Michigan schools and legislate to remove them.


Sat, Nov 5, 2011 : 3:48 a.m.

U.S. ARMY RECRUITMENT : I am rather surprised to read that none of the readers of this news story have given appreciation to the young Hispanic High School graduates who get enlisted for military service. Apart from physical, and medical fitness, these young recruits must not be addicted to drugs and must have no criminal records. U.S. Army is able to sustain itself as a viable fighting force by recruiting increasing numbers of Hispanics and Black people. Federal Rules and Regulations would not permit public disclosure of the immigration status of these army recruits. By rendering service to the country in its periods of need and crisis, these army recruits get their status regularized. It is indeed not a waste of public money if these kids are allowed to attend Public Schools. I am proud of Hispanic contribution to military service and they are an important source of new recruits. Kindly find time to speak to the Staff members at our local Army Recruitment Center and I am hopeful that they would support my view. Several of them have actually participated in all of the recent wars and continue to serve with pride and honor.


Sat, Nov 5, 2011 : 12:20 a.m.

I've got to add that it just galls me that she's here illegally and then protesting against our laws! Come on, what leg does she have to stand on? You're here illegally lady. And please, let's get the "anchor baby" law changed so there's not such a strong incentive to come here and have a baby so you can stay!


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 11:56 p.m.

Why didn't Bautista come here legally? Then her family wouldn't be at risk of being divided. She is fully responsible for her situation. Come here legally and abide by our laws. Then we welcome you with open arms. Is there any other country that allows so many to come illegally and break the law? No! Come on, wake up America. Wake up liberals.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 5:16 p.m.

It makes me so proud that the majority of people on here are dead set against ILLEGAL immigration. I welcome immigration, so long as it is tightly controlled and they are here to make the country better. Fact is, all illegal immigrants should be identified, reported, and deported. No excuses, no cries for sympathy. Gone. See Ya. Bye.

Charlie Brown's Ghost

Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 6:56 p.m.

An interesting feature of, being Internet-based rather than paper-based, is that the comments section receives input from beyond Ann Arbor's borders, which means that reality is represented to a degree not typically seen within the city limits.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 4:31 p.m.

Welcome to Noble Thoughts from All Directions : We speak and discuss about human migration issues without giving any place or room to the mechanisms by which human thoughts travel in all directions transcending all barriers. The idea or thoughts about excluding people interests me as I have not placed mental fences and barriers to exclude the free flow of thoughts from all directions. I wish that I had participated in this discussion while I had served in the Armed Forces of India and Sultanate of Oman while I had rendered military service to the United States of America. I know of others who had died and given their lives while serving in uniform for the benefit of the United States and its citizens. We had served the cause of the People of the United States as we had cherished some of the thoughts that U.S. has propagated to us. We have seen ourselves as supporters of values like Freedom, Liberty, Democracy, and Human Rights. These are the central American Values which we had wanted to defend while America wanted to assert its Power and Influence in the rest of the world. I would be interested to know if people defending the territory of United States would be willing to defend its values and global position and leadership in a foreign land? The residents of the United States must not forget the contribution being made by people in other parts of world who contribute to the prosperity that they witness in their personal lives.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 5:11 p.m.

Are you proposing that all illegals be required to join the armed forces? Sounds like a plan!


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 2:28 p.m.

Hundreds of cases in Washtenaw County? I think not. Either give names for the purpose of verification or stop exaggerating. The one obvious fact is that illegal immigrants are in the country illegally. Find them and deport them ASAP. I find it a little strange that illegal immigrants can have a number of children without being deported after the first. Republicans want cheap labor and Democrats want to skew the demographic to achieve political power. They are both disgusting. Give gigantic fines to those that employ them or harbor them.

Charlie Brown's Ghost

Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 1:49 p.m.

"Immigration rights groups rally against deportation" ... "Community members rallied against the deportation of immigrants" This is not only incorrect reporting, it's absolutely horrid reporting. We don't deport immigrants. We only deport ILLEGAL immigrants.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 1:48 p.m.

Is the US government deporting dead people? Just when zombies were finding their stride.


Sat, Nov 5, 2011 : 2:16 p.m.

Zombies are the new vampires ;)


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 1:46 p.m.

Some readers seem to think that all that is necessary to come into the US legally is to wait in line. That is simply not true. A relatively small number are admitted through a lottery system, but the vast majority are family members of US citizens or residents (often themselves immigrants), foreign workers with supposed skills that are unavailable in the US, but in reality are just willing to work for lower wages, and very rich business people. Many of these immigrants bring in their extended families. While there are justifications for these restrictions, the claim that immigrants (let's face it, you mean Mexicans) are all just jumping in line is nonsense. Our immigration system is a mess. It needs to be restructured in a rational way. That does not, however, resolve the issue of the millions of immigrants already here. Whether they are Mexicans who cross the border, Indians who overstayed their student visas or Chinese who came on tourist visas and never returned, you are not going to round them up and send them back. We need a program of identifying them, deporting the criminals, and putting the rest on to a path to citizenship.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 5:18 p.m.

We can't round them up and send them back? Actually, Ike did exactly that, though I would prefer a more sensitive term than "operation wetback"

Charlie Brown's Ghost

Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 1:58 p.m.

Absolutely not. Citizenship is not some cheap, meaningless, dollar-store token we give out on a whim to fix somebody's "problem" that they caused themselves by breaking the law. Citizenship is something of great value and something to be respected. It's not something you happen to end up with ("well, what the heck, they're already here and there are just too many of them"). It's something you earn, and living here for 14 years and still needing a translator is not earning it. As far as the family, she can just do the honest thing and explain to them that the reason she has to take them back to Mexico is that she broke our laws; that it's her fault.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 1:04 p.m.

And how many hundreds of thousands of souls are waiting, many of them for years, to get into the country legally? Which liberals in Ann Arbor have the compassion to protest for them, hmmmm? To stand up for the law-abiders, the orderly, the would-be contributors, many of whom are skilled, speak English (often better than some of us), and have never broken a single law in this country? Oh, none. Yeah, that's what I thought.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 4:03 p.m.

Scylding, if you would raise the quota, that would eliminate the need to "shut down the flood." They don't want to come illegally.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 2:15 p.m.

@Eric, if we could shut down the flood of Mexicans and other Central Americans illegally invading our country, utterly shut it down, I think we could certainly look at increased, legal immigration substanTially. I would need to look at the numbers, and probably study good research for a long time, to become truly informed about legal immigration rates, but I think what I just said would undoubtedly be true. We could certainly increase the numbers. I am no nativist or protectionist. Some of my ancestors came here on the Mayflower, some came as late as a century ago, but virtually all of them immigrated in recorded times. There is room for productive immigrants in this country who respect the law. But not for illegal immigrants who have not respected the law. In fact, I would say deport this woman's children and bring in 3 legal immigrants in their place. Allowing children of illegals to stay incentivizes illegal immigration.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 1:55 p.m.

Would you support a substancial increase in legal immigration quotas so that it is not effectively impossible for people to immigrate legally?

Charlie Brown's Ghost

Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 1:32 p.m.

"Liberals" and "law-abiding" is an oxymoron, and this topic really shows it.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 12:50 p.m.

It is a shame that immigration laws haven't changed. For many years this country allowed most anyone who wanted to come here a haven with plenty of opportunities. Lately the government is interested in only the cream of the crop yet many come here to fulfill jobs that many Americans are unwilling to accept. If these individuals desire to stay here,become citizens, and have not criminal background other than being an illegal alien, then an amnesty program should be enacted allow these individuals to stay. However until laws are passed to allow this process, they are in violation of current statutes and unfortunately should be deported. Unless we become a society where compliance with the law is optional without risk of retribution, then laws need to be followed.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 12:49 p.m.

Here is one solution, don't do business with companies that hire illegal aliens! <a href="" rel='nofollow'></a> Any company that hires illegals should have all tax credits. subsidies and federal contracts taken away. Think of the BILLIONS we would save! They only come here because they can get work, why hate people because they want to better their situation via hard work?


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 3:28 p.m.

Don't eat vegetables or fruit then.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 12:30 p.m.

1. People say illegals take jobs no one else wants to do. Wrong. There are now many illegals in the skilled trades, ex. auto technicians. 2. People say that illegals just want to improve their quality of life. That may be true for many, but a huge number of them are criminal castoffs from their own countries. Check out the ratio of illegals in our prison system for violent and you will be shocked and horrified. 3. People say that illegals are contributing to our economy. All evidence says they are crushing our economy by running up insurance, education, and service costs. And they certainly do not pay federal taxes. There is a loud minority of people that think it's ok for undocumented/illegal aliens to come to the US and fly under the radar, because they have their own agenda (i.e. economic/financial/familial) The rest of us say &quot;not welcome.&quot; This country has a responsibility to protect the citizens. They need to step it up.


Sat, Nov 5, 2011 : 12:01 a.m.

So well said. I couldn't have said it better. Thank you.

Charlie Brown's Ghost

Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 12:13 p.m.

If you want to come here, do it legally and I welcome you with open arms. However if the very first thing you do with your first step on US soil is to break our laws, then you are not welcome and you need to go back. You do not deserve respect when the way you got here showed disrespect to us. And people who hire illegals are also criminals and need to be punished. These misdirected liberals who just don't get it (big surprise) are putting their efforts in the wrong place. They should work to get the immigration laws changed so it's not so hard to come here legally.

Charlie Brown's Ghost

Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 2:06 p.m.

Yes, in appropriate numbers, which flex according to our needs and ability to handle it, economically. Realistic, data-backed needs, that is, not just &quot;American's won't do these jobs&quot; platitudes. And I support a quicker process to get them here. Forty-two years ago we put a man on the moon using incredibly primitive computing power (which was actually turned off during the final moments of landing due to it being rendered useless by and overabundance of data). There's no reason we can't process immigration and/or Visa applications more efficiently these days. I believe in a border with big wall, but with doors, and those doors need to open and close the appropriate amount as the situation dictates.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 1:54 p.m.

Would you support a substancial increase in the legal immigration quotas so that no one had to come here illegally?

Roy Munson

Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 12:09 p.m.

Julie, In your article, you are missing a very important word that goes before immigrant - ILLEGAL!!!!


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 11:51 a.m.

Also, american business owners that hire illegals should be fined heavily and if they continue after that the owners of said company's should be deported. That will stop illegal hiring which hurts this country and every tax paying citizen.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 11:47 a.m.

What do people not understand about the word ILLEGAL. Proper ways have been setup by the government to live in this country legally and these people choose to do it illegally. This is the biggest no brainer I have ever saw. You people have the gall to demonstrate over something that is illegal in this country and hurts every american citizen in this country. You should be ashamed.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 4 p.m.

&quot;You people have the gall to demonstrate over something that is illegal in this country and hurts every american citizen in this country. You should be ashamed.&quot; Yeah, nobody should ever demonstrate or protest to try to change something that's illegal. Also, I believe you meant that this is the biggest no brainer that you have ever &quot;SEEN.&quot;

fred altenbernt

Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 11 a.m.

Deport her, don't you see that what she has done is against the law. And I have gone throught the immigration with a wife to get her her legally. It cost me thousands of dollars plus investigation of me and her to see if I could support her and if she was desirable with no felonies. She learned to speak and read English, her son learned when he was here. Why should she be granted special status? Her life here has been a lie, against the law, a drain on our resources. You say that don't split up the family, take your children with you. They will be welcome back when they can live in this country on their own. Since she has been here since 97, don't you think she should be able to speak English and not need someone to speak for her? What has she done to deserve to stay here? Anyone? We have a hard time taking care of people that are here legally and the burden should not be put on the us. In my job that I have had for many years I have seen poverty, many &quot;Americans&quot; that need help. Why don't you put your efforts towards helping these people. Or do just want to do something that will make you &quot;feel good&quot;.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 4:38 a.m.

If liberals understood the simplest of logic, they'd realize a finite space (this country) can't have immigration growth forever. Each of these 'spots' of residence we allow these people to steal means someday in the future someone highly desirable will either not be allowed in or won't want to come here due to current/over population.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 1:52 p.m.

We do not have finite space. Our space grows with technology and investment. We build a tall building: suddenly 100 people live in the space that 10 were previously. We develop better agricultural techniques: suddenly we grow 1000 bushels of grain where we grew 500 previously. We have been doing this for centuries. Our country enormous potential to grow in population; our density is laughable in a global perspective. The Netherlands has a population density of 1000 people/square mile. Japan has 800 people/square mile. These are very rich countries that some argue have better quality of life than we do; we're not talking Bangladesh here. Our density? 80 people/square mile. This country is not full, nor will it be in our lifetimes. Let them come.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 1:35 p.m.

You would, obviously, be surprised to learn that many liberals support greater immigration control and enforcement. Some of the most vociferous opponents of illegal immigration are unions and civil rights groups because they see illegal immigrants as stealing American jobs. The biggest beneficiaries of illegal immigration are the employers who hire them.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 10:49 a.m.

@ Tone: While i agree with the &quot; finite space&quot; argument, it is truly ironic ( oxymoronic and hypocritical actually!!) for a &quot;non-liberal' ( perhaps a teapartier??) to be raising the issue given their party line against any family planning...the ultimate ( and indeed &quot;liberal&quot;) sensible way to address the &quot;finite space&quot; issue, be it in this country or on the planet.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 2:21 a.m.

THE PEOPLE'S TEA PARTY IS CALLING ALL PATRIOTIC AMERICANS TO ACTION. It doesn't seem to sink in to the majority of American minds, that illegal immigration is vastly encouraged by criminal business owners. A fence can only do so much, in holding illegal people desperate for a job; although this isn't the majority of cases, because millions enter America to take advantage of US taxpayers and the welfare entitlement system. It seems quite acceptable that employers also bring in legal immigrant workers on H-1b visa's, offering lower wages and fewer benefits that American job seekers expect. This is the avenue that companies are importing around a million immigrants a year legally. Taxpayers are forced by certain unfunded mandatory laws, to pay for the children's schooling of illegal alien parents to k-12, free open house in the emergency rooms of hospitals for treatment. The illegal immigration invasion is getting worse and the cost rising from the $113 Billion dollar mark, as more cross the limited fencing at the border and the lies told to federal inspectors at airport entry. Incidentally there is no tracking mechanism once inside America, unlike Mexico or many other countries.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 2:19 a.m.

Inside Congressional staffers are passing on information that corporate agricultural industries, farmers, special interest lobbyists, open border zealots are throwing bags of cash and promises of large campaign contributions, if they kill MANDATORY E-VERIFY. George Soros is involved; Ed Gillespie is threatening Politicians with NO money if they vote for E-Verify. International Groups as Ted Turner, United Nation Foundation Group, headed by Kofi Annum. The Carnegie Foundation, president and controlled by an Iranian Immigrant 'Vartan Gregorian' who has publically vowed to spend every penny to dismantle USA Borders. The Ford Foundation…Other Foundations supported by Carnagie Carnegie has supported are the National Council of La Raza, America's Voice, the National Immigration Forum, the Center for Community Change and its Fair Immigration Reform Network, the Center for New Community, the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials, the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund, and the Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education Fund. The NY Times Foundation… THE MONEY…THE GLOBAL POWER SOURCES; THE USA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS TOTALLY GLOBAL, NOTHING AMERICAN ABOUT IT, AS THEY ARE AGAINST E-VERIFYY AND TRYING TO WRECK IT. Currently there is an estimated 147,000 Veterans walking the streets—HOMELESS.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 2:19 a.m.

Giving out $113 billion dollars in free money annually is sheer madness and thanks to thousands of companies who invite this violation of our immigration laws, they are truly to blame for this growing population of non-status people and families. If I was a state prosecutor every business—large or small—that defies immigration laws, would initially be fined for each illegal hired, $25.000 dollars. The next offense $50.000, followed very closely be business asset confiscation and having more than one worker, two years in jail. But unlike most countries, where it is a felony for illegal entry, in our nation, you get deported; under President Obama's watch today, you can walk away free. Women concealing their pregnancy are entering America by the thousands yearly, through our unsecured border and also arriving at international air terminals; bringing in their hidden fetus with no intention of returning and therefore adding to the massive expensive health care package thrown at taxpayers. Illegal Immigration has got so bad in states like California, Nevada, they have been designated as notorious—Sanctuary States. These states are overwhelmed by millions, but the Liberals ignore it, allowing them to access welfare. But by no means are they the only cities and other jurisdictions? Obama's government must enforce our 1986 Control &amp; Reform act, as this nation can no longer import the abject poverty or other countries. The Hermitage Foundation has the real statistics, which visa over-stays has raised to 49 percent. California agricultural interests have been getting a subsidized ride for decades in using illegal immigrations, primarily from Mexico, for harvesting their crops. Crops which pay them-- LARGE PROFITS.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 2:17 a.m.

My blogs are now being banned unfortunately in the Liberal press, because the truth hurts and they prefer to offer e-newspaper readers propaganda or skirt around the issue. Many of the facts the public need to know, is to be found on the NUMBERSUSA website. Just type it into your browser search engine and learn about their commitment to American sovereignty. NumbersUSA and the TEA PARTY insistent on telling readers to 'BLAST' the House Representative at the Congressional Switchboard at 202-224-3121 and bother them to sponsor the 'Legal Workforce' Act, specifically the 'Ways and Means Committee, controlled by Majority Speak John Boehner (R-OH) to get his equal House Representatives and reluctant lawmakers and sponsor Bill H.R. 2885. This will end the national monopoly of illegal cheap labor and illegal aliens voting in 2012. We shouldn't forget that that although most US citizens as voters attention is on the 2012 election, that this year a number of states are holding gubernatorial and state legislative elections. That many of the results in these individual states will determine if immigration policing and state enforcement is enacted in 2011. States directly affected are Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi and West Virginia elect governors in 2011. In addition, 578 state legislative seats are available, with the majority of these in Louisiana, Mississippi, New Jersey and Virginia where the fate of politicians are in the hands of voters.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 2:16 a.m.

In voting precincts we must be truly on our guard and I hope that TEA PARTY members oversee the voting in all of these states? It's very sad situation, when we cannot trust the election system anymore, because of the actions of organizations as ACORN. Should your state be holding an election this year, please study each candidate and then vote. Go to NumbersUSA for more details on what you can do to combat this illegal alien infection, and help stop it for good. ONLY CITIZENS HAVE THE VOTE, SO WATCH FOR VIOLATIONS OF THE LAW. IT MIGHT SAVE YOUR JOB AND MILLIONS OF OTHERS. Don't STOP pushing for E-Verify to others, or it will never hinder Liberal propaganderists or others in both parties from derailing 'The Legal Workforce Act'. ATTN: From Judicial Watch, the public interest organization that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that it launched a national television advertising campaign on October 24, 2011 to combat illegal immigration. A key purpose of the campaign is to collect from the American people urging governors of all 50 states, to obey and enforce all laws against illegal immigration.

Charlie Brown's Ghost

Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 7 p.m.

Clownfish, the people who registered the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys to vote in Nevada disagree with you.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 5:41 p.m.

&quot;Voter fraud is a virtually nonexistent problem.&quot; You know thats exactly what the elections office told me when I reported someone who had a voters card and shouldn't have. In fact the woman at the City Of Ypsilanti elections office didnt want to do a thing about until I told her I wasnt going away until this person was taken off the voter roles.

John of Saline

Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 3:16 p.m.

It's easy to say there's little vote fraud when you're deliberately not looking for it.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 12:46 p.m.

The Brennan Center points out that in the state of Washington, for example, six cases of double voting and 19 instances of individuals voting in the name of the dead yielded 25 fraudulent votes out of 2,812,675 cast — a 0.0009 percent rate of fraud.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 12:44 p.m.

Voting fraud is not widespread, as a matter of fact it is quite rare. We have larger, more important issues to focus on. &quot;Voter fraud is a virtually nonexistent problem. Conservatives helped assemble the myth that now-defunct community organizing group ACORN &quot;stole elections&quot; by blurring the distinction between voter registration fraud -- which is as easy as filling out a registration form incorrectly -- and the actual act of casting a fraudulent ballot.&quot;- WaPO, Oct 2010. &quot;WASHINGTON, April 11 — Five years after the Bush administration began a crackdown on voter fraud, the Justice Department has turned up virtually no evidence of any organized effort to skew federal elections, according to court records and interviews. &quot;-Wapo 2007


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 2:14 a.m.

We can have unlimited immigration or a welfare state. Please choose. And by &quot;welfare state&quot; I'm referring to all taxpayer financed services. Think about how much the three children mentioned in the article cost to educate in Ann Arbor government schools, for example. Consider that 3-4 children is average for Mexican immigrant families. Remember that taxes are collected by force of law. Personally I think that the welfare state is the problem and high immigration just aggravates that problem. Though &quot;multicultural&quot; activists who discourage assimilation sure aren't helping. No easy answers here.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 1:39 p.m.

If the education of American citizens was pure expenditure, I'd agree with you. But it's not. It's investment in our county's most important resource: human capital. Those children are your and my retirement plan. When we are retired in 20, 30, 40 years, they will be the workers who will support our social security and medicare. I want my retirement to depend on children growing up in the United States with a loving mother, rather than children growing up in the US without parents, or even worse, children growing up in Mexico, not even learning English. Alone among the developing world, the US does not face a demographic aging crisis, and there's only one reason: immigration.


Fri, Nov 4, 2011 : 12:57 p.m.

&quot;We can have unlimited immigration or a welfare state. Please choose.&quot; Okay, ummmm...I choose neither.