Dog bites jogger on Barber Avenue in Ann Arbor

When I grew up, "Dog bites man" was an example of "non-news" while "Man bites Dog" was an example of News!

Cue militant dog owners...... now.

Can anyone tell me why a citation would not be issued?

Isn't this in the same neighborhood as the last dog attack?

"Shots up to date" isn't good enough. A citation should be issued at minimum for failure to control the dog. And the dog should be quarantined if the jogger's doctor believes that necessary.

pepper spray, highly recommend some pepper spray for over zealous 2 or 4 legged critters.

I find this piece riveting, gripping and emotional. When the writer described the dog "growling and barking", I could feel the anxiety of the jogger. Fascinating stuff.

personal tasers work for the 2 legged critters...and yes, pepper spray for the 4 legged

Vernice...ouch...yet quite funny

TCS, Yes I think so - near Abbot School.

maybe the dog was just trying to tell the woman to get out of the middle of the street. i'm sure he was just looking out for her.

I agree Wolfgang..you would think a 25 year old woman would know better than to be in the middle of the street...if the AAPD wants to increase fines this would be a great place to start..and set a good example to children so hopefully they don't play in the streets...

Amen Wolfgang! The dog was probably trying to keep the jogger safe by getting her out of the middle of the street. If joggers would only get a CCW and legally carry a pistol then they could bite back by shooting the attacking dog dead. I'm not saying that violence is the solution but its a good place to start.

Wolfgang, that comment is ridiculous!! The fact that she was running in the road gave the dog the right to bite her? So if she was running on the sidewalk you think the dog wouldn't have bitten her? Where's the logic!?! And people agreed with you!? What is this world coming to!?!?

maybe the fact that a2 doesn't have jogging lanes painted on any streets is the REAL problem here, as we fix all the streets in a2 by adding bikes lanes we could add jogging lanes. if we had jogging lanes and bike lanes no one would even care about how bad the roads are for cars.

There are jogging lanes in Ann Arbor. They're called sidewalks.

Why no Dog Lanes? Why are we discriminating against dogs?

Dear Dog Lover, there is no need to attack me in such a manner. I never said the dog had a right to bite her. I'm just saying that maybe he was on safety patrol and the woman refused to listen to him when he demanded that she stop running in the middle of the street. You have to hear all sides of the story before you start placing blame on anyone. Dog Lover? Maybe you'd better rethink your user name.

Wolfgang, if the dog wasn't wearing his sash, the woman had no legal obligation to listen to his barks and pull over.

I second the question: Why on earth wouldn't a citation be issued? Oh, its shots were up to date, very comforting. But did anyone see evidence of that? And am I the only one who thinks Wolfgang was being sarcastic?

Shhh, don't point out the sarcasm, the posts might disappear. Read the comment guidelines.

Almost had to kick a German Shepard in the teeth, the other day. No longer have a problem, with that dog, or drunken owner, for that matter. Some people and animals respond well, to obedience training.

Vernice i would aggree about sidewalks, matter of fact i would call a side walk a bike lane, but to the "shots up to date" point arn't the tickets given for the dog being off a leash not for the dog being off the leash AND uncared for. wonder what made her stop when this mean/nasty purse dog started chasing her, lock em all up everyone involed somethings askew here.

Yes treetowncartel, I agree. If that is in fact your real name.

From the comment guidelines: "We encourage everyone who registers on our site to use their real name.."

I agree. I'm sick of the sarcasm. We're trying to get to the bottom of this.

So when are dog owners going to start being held responsible for dogs on the loose? I suggest large fines! There are just too many dogs bites lately.

A cartel is an organization, not a person. Perhaps, there is more than one individual using this name. We are strong in our numbers!

Call Sam, get $1 million from owner, get dog put down, done! Next...

Why call Sam when you can Lee free?

In all seriousness, getting bit by a dog while running (even being confronted by an unleashed dog) scares the living daylights out of you. My suggestion to all runners - carry mace / pepper spray and don't be afraid to use it on a dog or another human. If you do use it on a dog, however, be prepared to get blamed - yes blamed - by the owner for somehow being cruel. It's happened to me twice. Hopefully the owner was 'trained' to put the damn thing on a leash as the law dictates in most communities.

Isn't Sam free now also... luckly I haven't needed them.

The owner should be responsible for the dog. If the dog was to bite me or my one of my kids it would be dead!

Yeah, you can call Sam free to. And you are right, better to be injury free than looking to a jury to right a wrong. Oh, and don't call the free guys, there are a lot better PI attorneys out there. That being said, I do believe you have to be a living person or have an estate in probate to initiate suit. Silly Ghost.

djm12652,

Just to be clear, Tasers are being discussed by lawmakers for CPL holders but are currently illegal for "regular' people in MI.

Joggers please consider getting some Mace/Pepper spray. The cost is minimal for a small portable container (~$10). I reccomend Sabre but Mace brand is available at Meijer.

just make sure to point the mace in the right direction. you wouldn't want to accidentally mace yourself instead of the poor pooch.

we ran an earlier story about a bulldog attack nearby on Sequoia Parkway:

http://www.annarbor.com/news/woman-ticketed-after-two-bulldogs-attack-and-injure-lab/

It is interesting how some--not all, but some--dog owners don't feel the need to control their dogs. Long ago, when I was much younger, I had two dogs run at me while jogging in the Arboretum. One broke off while some distance away, but the other was a big one, jumping and snapping at me. I said "Control your dog!" to the lady owner, who just laughed. Then I turned and said "Or I'll kill it!" THAT got her attention, and she finally did something. I wanted her to think I was nuts, and it worked. (I wouldn't have actually sought to harm the dog unless he'd bitten me hard and/or knocked me over, but she didn't know that.)

Yes - John of Saline - that works too! Have used that line before, or something similar along the lines of if you don't want me to kick your dog like a soccer ball, keep it away from me. sometimes tough love is what is needed.

Dear Little Terrier:

Come join me in exile.

Aho.

(if you understand that, you are a real Ann Arbor news fanatic. Does anyone remember?)

Just sue the irresponsible dog owner. And the city should have issued a citation.

I carry a large walking stick with me when I walk my (leashed) dog aound the neighborhood and especially in parks like Barden Nature Area; have come close on some unleashed, curious but not immediately threatening animals, but haven't had to use it.

Yet.

I started carrying the large 'Bad Dog! *Whack*'(TM) when walking down the street a dog began running toward us (across the street) but stopped at the yard's edge; am assuming there was an electric fence but those things don't always work.

Overall, the walking is usually without incident and I do try not to be paranoid about it - dogs just have a thinner veneer of domestication (civilization) about them than us (tho there *are* times...)

Ed, thanks for posting that link - I went looking for that article using the tag "dog" and couldn't locate it because, low and behold, the first article wasn't tagged that way. Any way to convince you guys to start using the tags consistently? It would sure help searching on the site.

I liked the sarcasm. Why is that against the rules?

You all crack me up!

Beuwolf,

that would be Ato, not Aho.

The dogs were afraid and just felt if some one was running in the middle of the street she could of been running from the police or she could of been a bank robber, the dogs just did not like to see someone running where they live.
If this person feel that she needs to run, she should join a Gym that has a indoor track to run in or go to a park to run.
In Ann Arbor there are just too many people running in the streets and the sidewalk that need to find a gym to run in, I am surprise that more of them do not get hit by a car and not just a dog bite.
Maybe now she will get a exercise bike to ride in her home and stay off the streets.
Why should any one get a citation, the runner cause the problem in the neighborhood, it was so kind of the Man to share with her
that the dog did have their shots and she will not have to worry about that later, the owner could of stayed in the home and not said anything.
To me this is a good sign that there should be a law to keep the runners off the city streets and sidewalks.
The Ann Arbor News paper used to put the picture in the paper of
the dog bite and show the injury and teeth marks, they sure did for Lilly Carter and she was at her home on her bed.

Hello - Hello - HELLO. The problem here is the OWNER of the pet. If ANY owner's pet breaks free or manages to get out of the house or yard and the pet owner is not totally FREAKED out - then maybe that owner needs the mace or whack across the head or whatever threat ya'll think is the answer. Letting your pet out without the safety of its leash is akin to letting a toddler run free in the street. That this dog ran into the street and the owner, from the sounds of it, was nonchalant is unacceptable. How many dogs get hit by cars. And, worse of all, the owner put her pet at risk by allowing it into this confrontational situation. As with children, not every adult takes the parenting role seriously nor knows how to be a good parent. Same for dog owners -

I own two dogs and live in the neighborhood where the incident occurred. I agree that the owner should have been cited and the dog quarentined. Unleashed dogs that behave aggressively are a problem for law abiding dog owners like me as well as joggers. The city needs to enforce the law to get the attention of irresponsible pet owners.

I honestly don't understand what dog quarantine means!

why would you quarantine the dog? what does that even mean? that is not going to solve anything. he is just going to come out more aggressive and ready for revenge. what he needs to do is attend some anger management classes and/or a support group. maybe do some community service as well.

I agree with Wolfgang. Why should my hard earned tax dollars go toward dog quarantines, when it's obvious that the dog can be rehabilitated through counseling?

I'm requesting a concealed weapons permit. Gotta keep those Yorkshire Terriers under control.

There's a vicious Yorkshire Terrior wearing an eye patch in Saline. That little guy scares me to death. Some kind of pirate dog.

I think it's time we discussed banning ALL dogs. After all think of the children that may be hurt by these vicious beasts. No it doesn't matter that indivdual owners should be responsible and only a few are not. Ban them all, problem solved, right?

We should also ban goldfish.

ok ok I'll compromise...How about all Dog owners need to:
* Take a test and apply for a permit to buy a dog
* register their dogs
* take an 8 hour class and apply to the Sherriff & State for a license to take your dog off of your personal property.
* be charged with misdemeanors when their dogs act aggressive
* be charged with felonies should their dogs cause any injury?

How about that? Those are REASONABLE Dog controls aren't they?

I think writers of ridiculous comments should be charged with felonies. Does that sound reasonable?

that seems a little extreme and unreasonable Ricebrnr. we need to save space in the jails for people who truly belong there; i.e. murderers, thieves, and people who suggest banning goldfish.

I think Ricebnrs point is any idiot can buy a dog but to buy and lawfully carry a firearm one must do the things he stated...

Ok, why are my comments getting flagged, but the squirrel's comments remain!?

Why are you picking on me, Dog Lover? Your comments are being deleted because you keep slandering Ricebrnr, Wolfgang and Billy Mays' Ghost for no good reason.

Looks like you're trying to form some kind of alliance, Squirrel. How do you know they'd want to be on your side? Also, your picture is obscene.

And a cat with a "come hither" pose is G-rated?

Please, no dog vs. squirrel here. Not at least unless you can provide photos.

Barb, I fixed the tag so that the "dog bite" tag brings up two stories now instead of one.

Spoken like a perverted squirrel.

Oh Edward! You always crack me up!

Thank you to those that understood that my "extreme" post took advantage if this story and previous comments to use the same arguments that those of us who advocate personal responsibility and the Second Amendment have to deal with on an daily basis.

Yes it was and is ridiculous isn't it?

I'm sorry, but how does this article relate to the second amendment? Oh wait, it doesn't. Now I understand how Wolfgang must have gotten confused.

Yeah, I don't get it either. This is about a dog biting a jogger - not about the right to bear arms. Isn't there something in the comment guidelines about this?

Don't be that guy - avoid comments or posts that are OFF TOPIC, offensive, contain personal attacks or that don't further the conversation.

I agree with Jhm - "Dog bites (wo)man" is not news!!! An attack where someone is seriously injured, yes, but a single bite by a small yap-dog? Give me a break! Are these guys rubbing our lack of a real newspaper in our noses?

To my knowledge Ann Arbor has an Animal Ordinance that requires dog owners to keep their off-leash dogs under control within the boundaries of the property on which they live, whether they are owners or renters. Since the jogger was in the middle of the street when she was bitten by the dog, the dog was not on its property and/or in control of its owner. Therefore, the owner should be cited.

By the way, "Ahto" was a (large) ChowChow, not a Terrier.

SFF

Some people buy dogs for personal protection. I simply threw out the idea that perhaps reasonable dog crime controls be put in place. I do believe that is germaine to the article and topic at hand.

Also note I did not bring up the reight to bear arms until it had already been commented one.

I don't see how I was off topic or violating any rules.

Well i can tell you this... if that would have happened to me that would be a dead dog. I dont leave my house with out my Ruger SR9.

This canine was barking up the wrong tree and will now have to spruce up his attitude and deal with fall out it leaves. Any one know if it was a coniferous or decidous tree?

The police no longer responds to non-life threatening calls in Ann Arbor, especially not issues regarding dogs or any other animals.

The runner is lucky in that the owner was nearby and mentioned that her dog was healthy.