Saline's Celtic Festival approved for July, but its future looks uncertain after City Council members raise financial concerns

Festival-goers wrap ribbon around a maypole at lats year's Saline Celtic Festival in Mill Pond Park.
Angela J. Cesere | AnnArbor.com file
The 16th annual Celtic Festival will take place this July in Mill Pond Park, despite several Saline City Council members' concerns about the event's financial viability.
However, the event faces an uncertain future even after the council voted 4-3 Monday to approve the July 8-9 event, while waiving about $5,500 in city fees for police and public works services.
The festival suffered from bad weather for several years in a row and showed an approximately $15,800 loss in 2007 and an estimated $18,000 loss in 2008 before turning a $19,700 profit in 2009, and a $3,600 profit in 2010, according to a four-year history of the event.
“For 11 of 15 years, it’s been profitable,” said Pam Grosshans, treasurer for the festival.
She said more than 300 volunteers put on the event, and the committee reduced its “expenses tremendously last year."
"The goal is to pay for ourselves,” she said.
In fact, last year the committee lowered ticket prices to try to encourage more family participation. Children under 12 were admitted free, while children 13-17 years paid $5. Adult advanced tickets were $10, while adult tickets purchased at the gate remained $15. Seniors paid $10.
“As always,” a festival report states, “those who cannot afford a ticket can volunteer a few hours of their time for a free entry into the festival.”
The Celtic Festival celebrates Saline’s sister city relationship with Brecon, Wales, and showcases Celtic music, dancing and athletics.
Councilman Dean Girbach was the first of several council members to express his concerns about the city’s monetary and manpower contributions to the event.
He said the city had contributed about $125,000 to the event during the last five years, about $25,000 each year.
He would like to see the city phase out its contributions to the event. “I’ll support it for this year,” said Councilmen David Rhoads. “But unless something drastic happens, I’d be hard-pressed to support it in the future.”
Councilman Pat Ivey, like several other council members, said he was concerned about the festival’s leadership and wondered why it took the executive committee eight months to bring its final report from last year’s event to the City Council.
“I’m troubled and appalled the 2010 annual report was just given to us,” said Councilman Brian Marl. “I think we deserve better than that. I think it’s time for a change, a new direction.”
Marl said he didn’t think it was the role of the government to organize and underwrite the event. The council met with members of the festival’s executive committee in a work session prior to Monday night’s regular meeting to discuss the committee’s report.
“I think from talking to constituents that this event has run its course and I won’t be supporting it,” Ivey said before the vote.

Councilwoman Linda Terhaar and Councilman Pat Ivey listen to the Celtic Festival committee report from the 2010 event during a Saline City Council work session and meeting Monday. Terhaar voted to continue the event, and Ivey voted against it.
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Resident Mary Hess said she’d twice asked the City Council about a final report on the festival and asked the elected officials to reject the committee’s request to continue the event.
Committee members reminded the City Council of the positive effect the Celtic Festival has on the community and on its youth, who work on the event. In addition, the City Council was assured that the projected $9,000 budget for donations would be exceeded.
The 2011 budget shows an estimated $81,176 in revenues and about $77,570 in expenses.
Councilwoman Linda Terhaar said, “For this year, I recognize the time and investment the committee has put in the community and I’ll support it.”
“The financial situation is not as dire as it once was,” said Mayor Gretchen Driskell, who also sits on the event committee. “There was a large fund balance in previous years. There are a lot of volunteers and residents who are vested in this, and a lot of recognition goes to the city.”
She said, “I think it does bring a big benefit to our community.”
Driskell suggested that the committee get together with the City Council in October when the final numbers are in to discuss the event’s future.
Councilman Glenn Law said he understood the council’s concerns but added, “You cannot deny the volunteerism.”
He said the festival “puts Saline on the map,” and the financial issues could be discussed in the future. But for 2011, he said, the festival should continue.
The festival is put on by a seven-member executive committee, 31 chairpersons and more than 300 volunteers, with support from city staff including the police department and the Department of Public Works, according to the report.
Traditionally, the Friday evening of the festival is Pub in the Park, while the festival itself takes place all day Saturday. Included in the list of events are the opening parade, living history enactments, competitions and performances that show aspects of Celtic history.
Ivy, Marl and Girbach voted against approval of the event, while Terhaar, Law, Rhoads and Driskell voted in favor of it.
Lisa Allmendinger is a reporter with AnnArbor.com. She can be reached at lisaallmendinger@annarbor.com. For more Saline stories, visit our Saline page.
Comments
Susan Montgomery
Wed, Mar 23, 2011 : 3:29 a.m.
Hope it takes place, it's a great time, though we missed the Highland Games last year, not quite the same without them... (in photo caption, "lats" should be "last")
Common Sense
Wed, Mar 23, 2011 : 12:18 a.m.
While this is a GREAT EVENT for the Saline area, it should to the point of profitability that NO ADDITIONAL SUBSIDIES are necessary from the city of Saline. It should be able to pay its own way after 15 years in existence. Where can one find a complete public posting of its Income/Expense report for the past 15 years? I also find it difficult to understand why Glenn Law and Gretchen Driskell did not abstain from voting on this measure since they are 2011 Celtic Festival Committee members and also City of Saline council members. Gives the appearance of not being objective! <a href="http://www.ci.saline.mi.us/?module=Page&sID=celtic-festival-committee" rel='nofollow'>http://www.ci.saline.mi.us/?module=Page&sID=celtic-festival-committee</a>
snoopdog
Tue, Mar 22, 2011 : 11:32 p.m.
Went last year for the first time, it was awsome. Saw some great musicians, friends I had not seen in years and good cold beer. As long as it does not rain, we will go again ! Good Day
SMAIVE
Tue, Mar 22, 2011 : 6:23 p.m.
Definition of Profit: a financial benefit that is realized when the amount of revenue gained from a business activity EXCEEDS the expenses, costs and taxes needed to sustain the activity.
Buster W.
Tue, Mar 22, 2011 : 5:14 p.m.
This event seems to live-or-die by the weather every year and take place at one of the worst times of the year, weatherwise (we've all seen what happens with the A2 Art Fair). In addition, the weekend following the 4th doesn't seem like it would be the greatest draw. Has the committee ever tossed around the idea of moving the date (mid to late June?)? Our family has attended (and participated in) the parade, but never the event itself. We might this year.
CobraII
Tue, Mar 22, 2011 : 5:02 p.m.
If it cannot pay for itself, then let it die; enough tax dollars have been wasted on it. The youth of Saline have The Fifth Corner to go & paint the side of the building; they don't need to see cows in the park!
Jay Allen
Sat, Mar 26, 2011 : 4:18 p.m.
You mean the 5th Corner that YOU vehemently oppose and want gone? And when you say "tax dollars", just how many tax dollars have been wasted? DO NOT come back with some regurgitated rhetoric supplied by others. If you are going to sit in judgment and scream from the mountain tops about stuff, you need to READ what is supplied. I do not see the phrase "tax dollars wasted" anywhere. In case you have not noticed, the economy is poor. In a poor economy and in good weather, it turns a profit. In a declining economy with poor weather, it lost money. All undeniable facts. So after many years, our council wants to abolish funding. This is why we have elections that out folks who are not in touch with our needs. I doubt you have ever been and I doubt you have supported anything here in S-Town. As I said in another thread, I will be at the 5th Corner tonight. Stop by for a chat.
CobraII
Tue, Mar 22, 2011 : 4:59 p.m.
If it cannot pay for itself, then let it die; enough tax dollars have been wasted on it.
DonBee
Tue, Mar 22, 2011 : 4:36 p.m.
Our family loves the festival. It is the main reason we know Saline. I understand the need for all local governments to manage their funds and put them to the best use. I hope the festival has great weather this year and turns a large enough profit to pay for city services next year.