Top 5: Advice from a Spartan for U-M fans going to East Lansing this weekend
This shirt might be appropriate while you're in East Lansing, but after the game, it also might be a good idea to change into something else — especially if Michigan wins.
Jeff Sainlar | AnnArbor.com
However, if you are a Michigan fan sporting your maize and blue as you walk down Grand River Avenue or along the picturesque Red Cedar River, you’d be forgiven for being a little bit intimidated. After all, I am Spartan and I fully recognize how some of our green-and-white brethren behave after a few hours of tailgating with a rivalry game on the horizon.
In recognition of the many people — including myself — who will be making the trip from Ann Arbor to East Lansing on Friday night or Saturday morning for the game, here are the top five pieces of advice for Wolverine fans coming to EL for the game. Consider it the last nice thing I do for anyone in maize and blue until about 4:30 p.m. Saturday.
1. Wear your maize and blue proudly, but it might be in your best interest to leave the “State Sucks” T-shirt at home until next season.
First off, be proud of who you are. If you’re a Michigan fan, wear that yellow shirt around East Lansing. There are few things worse than the Michigan (or MSU fan, for that matter) who gets a ticket to the game in the opposing team’s student section and wears the shirt of the team they’re rooting against to blend in.
However, it will probably be in your best interest to not wear a blatantly anti-Spartans T-shirt around town — especially not after the game, according to Rick Winowiecki, one of the owners of the Ann Arbor T-Shirt Company.
Winowiecki said two anti-State T-shirts have been hot sellers in the past two weeks. One reads “State … because high school was much fun the first time around” and the other suggest that "State has a small . . .'' — you can probably fill in the blank here.
Winowiecki said sales of those two shirts in the past few weeks “dwarf the sales of everything else.”
He said before the game, the shirts will be conversations starters and might generate a few laughs. But, if you’re planning to stay in East Lansing for the night after the game is over, it might be a good idea to change into a simple Michigan shirt.
“At the end of the day, if you’re at a party and State lost and they get hostile, you don’t want to get caught wearing one,” Winowiecki said. “In my experience, you’ll want to wear it prior to the game when it’s all fun and games.”
2. Don’t engage the belligerent people who yell at you.
Most MSU fans are friendly folk who simply like to have a few drinks before the football game, go into Spartan Stadium and cheer on the Green and White. But, like any school, there are a few idiots in our number.
There’s a very mixed crowd in East Lansing for these games; lots of Michigan fans come up, it’s usually very pleasant and everyone gets along. However, when the inevitable drunk starts yelling obscenities at you for the awful crime of supporting your team, just do the smart thing by smiling and walking away.
Sgt. Florene McGlothian-Taylor from the MSU Police Department said the best way to avoid these situations is to check your alcohol intake. Many times, silly arguments escalate because of heavy drinking, she said.
“If something like that happens, just disengage,” she said. “Don’t escalate the situation; just leave. Celebrate with class and be above the fray.”
MSU police officers will be on patrol around campus, along with the Ingham County Sheriff’s Office, East Lansing Police Department and Meridian Township Police Department, she said. McGlothian-Taylor said anyone who spots something illegal should report it to any of the police officers immediately.
“Our community is a good host, but we will not tolerate unlawful people,” she said.
3. Tailgate on campus, but not on Munn Field.
If you’re coming in from Ann Arbor and you’re looking for a spot to tailgate, MSU’s beautiful campus is definitely your best bet. However, stay away from Munn Field.
Munn Field is the large grassy area near Spartan Stadium, the Breslin Center and next to Munn Ice Arena at the corner of Shaw Lane and Chestnut Road. It used to be one of the centers of tailgating at Michigan State (and to an extent it still is) but for those looking to enjoy a few adult beverages before the game, it is an alcohol-free zone.
A Michigan State University ordinance bans open containers of alcohol on campus and in all public areas of campus, except on home football game days. That means anyone of legal drinking age can enjoy a drink or two anywhere on campus — except for Munn Field.
Off-campus tailgating is usually set in the student homes and, not surprisingly, carries a much younger crowd. Most areas of campus tailgating, except the tennis courts at Chestnut and Wilson Roads, are an older, alumni crowd. It’s far more likely you’ll find a friendly scene somewhere on these lots — my personal selection is behind Giltner Hall off of Auditorium Road near Farm Lane Road — than off-campus or at the tennis courts.
4. If you don’t have tickets, get to a bar early because they’re going to be packed. East Lansing is a much smaller town than Ann Arbor and, while the bars might be legendary, there simply aren’t very many of them.
With a large crowd expected for the weekend, you’re probably going to have to get to a bar at a ridiculously early time in order to get a space.
Glenn Granger, one of the managers of the East Lansing Buffalo Wild Wings location, said the restaurant is expected to be full at 6 p.m. Friday. On game day, Buffalo Wild Wings will open at 8 a.m. and is preparing to be filled to capacity by 9:30 a.m. That’s a full two and a half hours before game time.
Like most bars in East Lansing, Buffalo Wild Wings — at the corner of Albert Avenue and Charles Street — will be 21 and up only after 9 p.m. on Friday and all day Saturday.
Granger said he’s expecting a solid mix of MSU and U-M fans for the game, but the atmosphere at the restaurant will be friendly.
“We keep it light. Obviously, there’s a lot of people coming up from Ann Arbor, saying ‘Go Blue,’” he said. “But one thing’s for sure — if you get into a fight, you’re getting kicked out.”
5. Travel in packs or meet up with good friends who are State friends and stick with them.
As one MSU fan who was walking near First Street and West Huron Street in Ann Arbor can attest, walking by yourself in enemy territory can sometimes end badly — even if you’re doing nothing wrong.
While some idiots might take a shot at you if you’re walking alone down the street in your maize and blue, they’re far less likely to do it if you’re with several other people all wearing the same gear. And they’re even less likely to do it if you’re with several people wearing MSU and U-M gear.
McGlothian-Taylor said using the buddy system and avoiding large crowds is a great way to keep out of potentially dangerous situations.
“Keep moving and avoid large crowds,” she said. “Especially if you’re wearing the opposite colors.”
- Drinking on campus is legal, but not on public streets.
- Spartan Stadium has a no-bags policy. You also can’t bring in any seatbacks or seat pads. (Note: I've been alerted that you can't bring in seat pads with pouches or pockets. Other seat pads are OK.)
- Check this document from the MSUPD for answers to all your other game-day questions.
Keep these pieces of advice in mind and you’ll definitely have a fun time this weekend. See you on Saturday. Go Green, Go White.
Kyle Feldscher covers cops and courts for AnnArbor.com. He can be reached at kylefeldscher@annarbor.com or you can follow him on Twitter.
Comments
Eric Meyer
Sat, Oct 15, 2011 : 1:59 p.m.
If you're confident and competent, you don't need to say so. You let your actions, and your reputation, speak. I find the convo above pretty distasteful. MSU is a fine school, with many grads who go do great things. Michigan has a bit of an edge, probably, with many fine alums. My school's alum list includes MacArthur, Eisenhower, etc... but you won't ever find me lording it over anybody else, folks. My guess is that the people fighting for Michigan's academic honor probably didn't goto Michigan. Just sayin'... GO BLUE!
mike gatti
Sat, Oct 15, 2011 : 11:14 a.m.
I guess it has been a long while since I have been to a MSU game. I know it was the "old days" but I don't remember a lot of trouble at MSU in regards the games. There are bullet heads everywhere. On another note, why the need to use academic reputation as a hammer? It is great if you went there or work there to be proud of the school you attended or that you are helping to make great. By any metric used it is a wonderful school. However, when you are great there is no reason to Lord it over others, even when others point out their successes. There is a reason they are doing that and if you are as great and smart as you proclaim you know why and maybe should be a little flattered instead of baring fangs.
Jpy
Sat, Oct 15, 2011 : 2:09 a.m.
One of the biggest factors in the differences between MSU and UM fans is that the UM students are on average significantly older because the grad programs make up half the university. In terms of who is actually in the crowd, that means two things: 1) a much, much higher proportion of the crowd at EL is made up of students because undergrads generally attend all the games and grad students often don't; 2) the students at UM are on average older. It also affects the tone of the campus quite a bit. I'm a UM grad and have been a UM fan since I was about ten. I love Michigan football. But, I sympathize with the folks who talk about 'arrogant a---s from Ann Arbor' because so often it's true. No one does pretentious quite like Ann Arbor.
Kyle Feldscher
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 6:16 p.m.
Here are some other suggestions that I didn't have space for in the actual column: 1. Go to the Peanut Barrel. Great food, drinks are cheap, the Long Islands are spectacular. It's an MSU staple and I make it a point to go there at least once whenever I'm in town. 2. If you're looking for something to eat when the bars are closed and you've been out for a while, go to Menna's and order a Buffalo Dub with ranch, especially if you don't mind massive amounts of calories. 3. There's really not a good place to park overnight, unless you're staying at a hotel. However, the lots on campus are usually fairly cheap for tailgating, definitely less than the $40 for the golf course here in Ann Arbor. Hope everyone has a great time this weekend!
Eric
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 5:37 p.m.
Oh, thought this was interesting, from the article "Can Brady Hoke do what a Michigan coach hasn't done since 1948?" that's currently up. This was during the 1959 game, when the Spartans visited Ann Arbor for the game. Here's the account: "With both teams trying to avoid an 0-2 start, the favored Spartans traveled to Ann Arbor to take on the Wolverines. Not everyone who made the trip was welcomed with open arms. The night before the game, a mob of Michigan students surrounded a car with Michigan State emblems in the window, covered it in yellow paint and shaving cream, then deflated the tires." So, somebody remind me again how Michigan is completely free of blame here, and how MSU is terribly guilty? Jus' keeping it real, folks. :) GO BLUE!
Eric Meyer
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 11:29 p.m.
so, what you're saying is that perhaps Michigan started it? All of it's relevant in this kind of a rivalry, dude. Long memories. I'm just making the point is that Michigan "the institution" hasn't always been completely guiltless, if we are even today. And if you want more relevant examples, I'm sure there are one or two Spartan fans who might be able to provide them within the last five years. This "holier than thou" crap is wearing thin. Our fans can be just as bad as anybody else's...
Ross
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 7:20 p.m.
Wow, an anecdote from 1959. Pretty relevant stuff.
A2D2
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 5:23 p.m.
A very well-written article. Thank you, Kyle, for the advice. However, am I the only person that noticed the Sweet Irony in that AnnArbor.com's Crime and Court Reporter is the person writing the article? A2D2
Ross
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 7:19 p.m.
No, your not the only person to notice that, as shown by all the comments above yours pointing out that exact thing, haha.
Eric
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 5:19 p.m.
Hey, all. Bad apples everywhere. They're at Michigan State, at OSU, at Wayne State, at Bowling Green... and yes, even at Michigan. Say what you will to justify your own allegiences, but let's try to keep a little perspective, right? I thought this was a pretty solid article, with good advice on avoiding the bad apples, whether they be sports-associated or just thugs. And as for the academic thing, Michigan's a great school. I'm an alum and proud. However, if we're so good, we shouldn't need to rip State down to make ourselves feel better. Anybody who does, honestly, is kind of a loser. That being said, I can't WAIT for the game to start. I hope the Spartans enjoyed the last three years, CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE A ROUGH DECADE TO COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO BLUE! GO HOKE!! GO DENARD!! GO MIKE MARTIN!!!!!
aggatt
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 4:59 p.m.
I'm just glad the game isn't here in Ann Arbor this year. Last year I saw some of the worst fan behavior I have ever seen when all the state fans invaded. I was physically assaulted by one girl for no apparent reason--I was standing quietly in line at BTB and she ran up and punched me and kicked me. I saw multiple fist fights, mostly amongst the State fans, people openly drinking on public property, and generally outrageous behavior all over campus. As far as I'm concerned we should just have the game in EL every year so the rest of us don't have to deal with the State fans. Clearly class is not something taught in class at MSU.
Tru2Blu76
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 4:18 p.m.
The most troubling thing about fan violence and even fan rudeness is that such behaviors show that "we" (people in general) treat sports games as separate from the rest of our civil lives. It's an excuse, plain and simple, for bad behavior which is unnecessary in the first place! There is NO "need" to be rude or to use any form of violence against others - regardless of what clothing they may be wearing. Pointing at: all the universities which have built college football and basket ball and hockey into huge entertainment venues while - IGNORING THEIR RESPONSIBILITY to society, to tax payers, to donors and to FANS. All of the Big 10 schools should be right now "improving the brand" with a campaign emphasizing a culture of peaceful (and lawful!) celebration of college sports. It's not just Umich or MSU, it's ALL the universities which are complicit in bad (and illegal) fan behaviors. The simple way to put it is: YOU are responsible for this MESS, now you've got to clean it up! I mean by that: all the athletic directors, like Dave Brandon, know and understand this problem. A.D. Brandon has shown brilliance and leadership - but not on this topic. So this should be our challenge to Dave Brandon and to all the A.D.s in the Big Ten. Thanks to Kyle Feldscher for offering these helpful tips. But if our universities were doing their job: these tips wouldn't be necessary! Go Blue!
Chicagobob
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 5:07 p.m.
Agreed! Brandon and the coaches need to get busy. Just getting all the gate procceds and their big salaries isn't enough, they should actively and visibly encourage appropriate fan behavior and point out how demeaning inappropriate behavior is to the schools involved. Boys will be boys should no longer be an excuse for bad behavior. P.S. I'm a 36 year UM employee who's been embarrassed many times by inappropriate fan behavior in Ann Arbor with the result that I often root for the opposing teams.
obviouscomment
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 4:10 p.m.
All I know is what my and my friends have personally put up with...the worst being my friends' car having the windows smashed in by State fans last year after the game in A2, oh and their kids were in the car. So, in my opinion State fans are the worst. Really any FANatics are ridiculous because they take it way too far. Come on people, root for your team but be respectful of others, aren't most of us adults?
Sully
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 3:52 p.m.
East Lansing certainly isn't the friendly place for U of M fans, but don't delude yourself, U of M in Ann Arbor are often very crude, rude and violent. I know from experience if you go into downtown Ann Arbor wearing State gear (and I'm talking just regular school gear, not smack talk tees), you have to be ready to protect yourself.
Borisgoodenough
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 3:30 p.m.
WOW! How perfectly appropriate to have your "crimes and courts" reporter advising us how to survive an afternoon with the MSU football team in East Lansing!
ogel1209
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 3:22 p.m.
Feldscher, no Michigan fan needs any advice from a moo-yoo fan. Why don't you go back to el and work? Your columns are worthless here. I'm sure this is a space filler. To assume that any Michigan fan needs advice from you is ludicrous. Where's Meinke? He writes the football columns. Keep your advice to yourself and GO BLUE!!!
ogel1209
Sat, Oct 15, 2011 : 12:50 p.m.
Feldscher, my comment was taken down because you couldn't take the heat! Just remember your grammar with your next column. If you need help, any Michigan graduate will be glad to proofread your column. I'm sure you will be visiting the cows today.
Kyle Feldscher
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 6:08 p.m.
Thanks for the comment, Ogel. Appreciate you reading the column. Keep the feedback coming!
Craig Lounsbury
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 3:10 p.m.
"By Kyle Feldscher Crime and courts reporter" good to see A2.com places their reporters in their comfort zone......;) (just kidding A2.com, just kidding)
Forever27
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 2:27 p.m.
This article sounds a lot like those that provide advice to women so that they can avoid being sexually assaulted. Stay classy E. Lansing, you always do. On another note, at least with the game being in EL this year we wont' have all of the Juggalos running around Ann Arbor spray painting cars with the letters "STAEE" this year.
braggslaw
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 2:20 p.m.
I have to defend MSU, as I have very close friends, children and family who went there. First of all MSU is in the middle of the Big 10, not the bottom. Iowa, Purdue, Indiana, and MSU switch spots all the time. As Nebraska was kicked out of the AAU, they are at the bottom. The Big 10 is the best academic BCS conference in the country. What would you say if you had a kid that went to Michigan undergrad and then went to the D.O. school at MSU, which is ranked higher than Michigan's medical school in primary care? What would you say to your friend who works at the MSU cyclotron and is working on the largest accelerator in the United State and is one of the reason that MSU has the number one nuclear physics program in the world? Slamming MSU's academics is silly, as they are a great school. Michigan is a better school, but MSU is no ugly nancy. People should get some perspective.
BeatTownBlue
Sat, Oct 15, 2011 : 12:11 a.m.
One more thing... When you refer to stats or numbers, please don't just pick up the ones that suits you well. In the "primary care" ranking that you're referring to, Iowa and Nebraska are ranked higher than MSU. So, according to you, those schools should be even better. The fact is that, when people talk about medical school ranking, it is not the primary care school ranking that counts, but rather the research school ranking. In the REAL medical school ranking where Harvard is #1, Michigan is #10 and MSU is #87. (And Nebraska is #66.) PC school is a SMALL part of the entire school.
BeatTownBlue
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 11:34 p.m.
Well, it's great that MSU has a nice project going on. Again, my point is that MSU having a few SMALL DIVISIONS that rank high doesn't mean that it is a great school. Here is my point. 1. A great university should have strong departments across the board. 2. MSU does not. 3. Therefore, MSU is NOT a great school. Please, if you have anything to argue against this point, go ahead. IMO, the fact that you have to resort heavily to one episode or two surely tells something. MSU is no ugly nancy, I agree. But she fergodsakes is not a prom queen. It's an average school in the B1G.
braggslaw
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 11:05 p.m.
The Rare Isotope Accelerator is a billion dollar investment at MSU. They are building a new high-power heavy-ion driver plus reaccelerator it will be the be the world-leading facility for research in nuclear structure and nuclear astrophysics. Ok you got me.... I should have said nuclear structure and not particle physics, my mistake. Studying how many neutrons a nucleus can hold, new heavy elements, stable nuclei etc. is different. Does not change the fact that the RIA is a huge deal for the State and all of those engineers and physicists who will benefit from the work.
BeatTownBlue
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 10:38 p.m.
and I am sure, if you are in the field, nuclear physics is NOT particle physics by any means, at least in the context of MSU being ranked #1. Particle physics in general is much bigger field, and USNEWS certainly has a separate category for particle physics ranking.
BeatTownBlue
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 9:46 p.m.
I am not "demeaning" another school to make myself feel better. I am saying it because that's just the fact. Again, as I said, MSU having a few SMALL DIVISONS (fergodsakes) that rank high doesn't mean that it is a great school as you insist. A great school should have strong departments across the board, not just here and there. UM does, and MSU does not. Speaking of the nuclear physics division, I know for a fact that nuclear physics (especially these days) is a very small part in physics. How do I know? Because I myself have a PhD in physics (not from UM). And I know colleagues who want to do state-of-the-art accelerator-related experiments go to europe or even japan because facilities in the US are now old. (Of course, I am talking about general trends here.) I am not saying that MSU students are all moron. No way. I am absolutely sure that there are bright students on campus in EL. But when you want to compare school's general academic performance and talk about general perception, please be rather objective.
braggslaw
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 9:24 p.m.
In my particular field MSU happens to be the best. Nuclear Physics 1. Michigan State University 2. MIT My family members who went to the D.O. school were also interested in holistic medicine. Primary Care Medical Schools 14. Michigan State University D.O. 20 University of Michigan It says something about a University when you are the center for particle physics in the United States and you have a great medical school(s). I can't really speak about the other grad schools majors but I understand the graduate business school and education school are very good. I don't understand why people need to demean another school to make themselves feel better.
Alex
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 9:23 p.m.
I'm sorry. that should be there...still half asleep
Alex
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 9:23 p.m.
Is their anything more pathetic than piggybacking off of others' success? Just because U of M ranks highly as a school does not mean every U of M student is smart or will be successful. Likewise, every student at MSU is not a moron. How dumb would it sound if Danny Woodhead told Adrian Peterson that he was better than him because the Pats are a better team than the Vikings? Many, many people that went to U of M are successful. Many, many people that went to U of M ride the coattails of their degree into a job that they do not perform well in. Same thing happens at MSU. Get over yourselves.
BeatTownBlue
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 8:55 p.m.
MSU is NOT a great school. I am not saying this because I am a UM fan/alum. That's a fact. Not only is MSU inferior in terms of undergrad education, MSU looks far worse when you take into account its grad school rankings, which is probably the best way to measure the quality of school's academic research. In most graduate program categories that you will find, UM is either in top 10 or very close. You name it. Medicine, law, business, natural science. UM is all top 10. But you will not find that many MSU programs listed there. Heck, yeah.. they may have one or two SMALL DIVISIONS that are decently ranked here and there. But for every small division that MSU can brag about for good ranking, any decent school will come up with ten or more easily. Let's just not be biased because you have close friends, kids and family who went there. Fact is a fact, no matter how you see it.
braggslaw
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 5:14 p.m.
USNWR public universities Michigan 4 Purdue 23 Minnesota 25 Michigan State 28 Iowa 28 Indiana 31 Nebraska 46
goldenblue
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 4:57 p.m.
i just googled big ten school academic standings.Michigan is second to Northwestern.msu is eleventh with Iowa last.Purdue and Indiana ranked ahead of msu.That was a simple google search.
EyeHeartA2
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 2:26 p.m.
"What would you say if you had a kid that went to Michigan undergrad and then went to the D.O. school at MSU, which is ranked higher than Michigan's medical school in primary care?" How about: "I'm sure this is just a phase you are going through." or maybe: "Well, I hear that Cedarfest is fun." I might try to put a good spin on it for them, but I'm afraid my body language would give it away.
lindsay erin
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 2:15 p.m.
As a die hard Michigan fan, I vow to do absolutely nothing that you've just suggested. Bring it on, Green & BRONZE. GO BLUE!!!
lindsay erin
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 2:22 p.m.
What I'm getting at is I refuse to limit my fun and spirit because of some sour attitudes, although I plan to take the basic safety precautions that one takes when traveling anywhere.
Matt Patercsak
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 1:11 p.m.
to have a warning guideline about how to be safe in east lansing really says a lot about the class of a fan base. I feel that Ohio State displays much more sportsmanship among the fans than MSU. drunk, belligerent, ignorant fans who cannot accept a loss, one of the reasons I've been a michigan fan my whole life.
Jonny Spirit
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 2:36 p.m.
Oh, you mean the Ann Arbors news writes these articles. Come on man, think about what your writing. You are reading the newspaper from Ann Arbor.
Joe Kidd
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 2:29 p.m.
Exactly the opposite of what is commonly reported. For years every time the away game comes up in Columbus, there are articles about how rude and abusive osu fans are toward Michigan fans. You could actually expect the stories each time and how people say they won't even wear Michigan clothing in Columbus and fear for their cars with Michigan plates. I have never read anything like that about E Lansing or msu.
Jonny Spirit
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 2:19 p.m.
I have seen MANY situation at Michigan where Michigan fans have attacked other people with the opposing teams shirts. Yes, Ann Arbor you also are talked about in the same situations at other schools. People hate to come up here because of all the drunks at the golf course. Don't think your town is any different then any other. I have been to many other college football games and have seen it all. Ann Arbor you are right up there with The Buckeyes and MSU. North Western and Penn St. are great to go to, and Wisconsin is getting better :)
EyeHeartA2
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 12:49 p.m.
"Travel in packs or meet up with good friends who are State friends and stick with them." To suggest that we must not travel alone smacks of "blaming the victim". How can this be allowed on this blog? Perhaps we need a "Dress Like a Wolverine" march? I'll organize it. Let's start all over AA and walk to the corner of Stadium and Main. Let's do this on 10/29. We should all dress in blue and try to be there by about...say...noon. Please be there if you support my cause. This blaming the victim cannot stand.
Rod J
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 12:21 p.m.
"I fully recognize how some of our green-and-white brethren behave" Shouldn't that be Green-and-Gold????
Tex Treeder
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 3:10 p.m.
MSU changed its colors? I must have missed this.
a2roots
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 1:29 p.m.
those are laughing stock unies...
lugemachine
Fri, Oct 14, 2011 : 12:26 p.m.
I thought they'd changed to green and bronze.