Washtenaw Avenue redevelopment proposed from Ann Arbor to Ypsilanti

Bringing into Ann Arbor folks who could only afford to live in Ypsilanti may help Ann Arbor Public Schools' revenue over the years.

If anything can be done that works, I'm for it. I abhor that stretch of Washtenaw and, I'm sorry and embarrassed to admit, consider anything past Huron Parkway to be Ypsilanti, simply because it's all so ugly.

That's ok, generlcreg. In Ypsi we consider anything west of 23 useless, simply because its so stuck up and self righteous.

@Genericreg,
There are two Arby's restaurants on Washtenaw. The one in Ann Arbor has an outside restroom. That's embarrassing.

genericreg - what in the world are you talking about???? Where does Dexter start? At Stadium and Pauline?

Everyone raise their hand who believes that what keeps young professional is this area is a pretty to look at drive between Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti. Anyone? Anyone?

Whose vested interests are being served by text such as: public transit and pedestrian-friendly connections....reduced building setbacks, mixed-use development and affordable housing that will help Washtenaw County retain talented young residents.

It is jobs that "retain talented young residents" as well as middle-aged and older residents. It is JOBS.

Here is another high cost project that government people think is important. That stretch of road was dismal in the 60s when I moved to the area. We've had good times and bad times since then. Who believes any of it was caused by the lack of places to lock up a bicycle and how close buildings were to the road?

What does this mean: "a corridor authority with its own zoning powers will be formed." Are city governments ceding their authority to a "corridor authority?" I'm a voter and I'm not.

What would be nice is if they made it bike-friendly to get from Ypsi to Ann Arbor. I'd love to bike in-between, but I think it's too dangerous no matter which way you go. There are no bike lanes, and the sidewalk stops and starts. As far as the rest of the redvelopment, I'm not sure why that's a priority. I'm a graduating UM senior, and a nice, developed stretch of Washtenaw is not going to make me stay here.

I hope they plan to address Washtenaw's vehicle capacity. The roadway is already filled to the brim with vehicles, so adding more development without addressing Washtenaw's ability to move cars along is pointless. For many people (those who come to Ann Arbor to work, to go to school or to go to the hospitals but live elsewhere), mass transit simply isn't a viable solution. They should look at a second route across US23 near Arborland to deal with the traffic problems that the mall creates right as people are trying to get on (or off) the freeway.

Dr. I. Emsayin, this may come as a shock to you, but most people who live in Ypsilanti CHOOSE to live there. (The grass isn't greener on the other side of the freeway.)

It's about time. Really nice photo, by the way!

With all of the intense traffic at the US-23 & Washtenaw Av interchange, they should spend some time in upgrading that junction. I'd like to see a single-point interchange created at that spot similar to the one they have at US-23 & M-59 near Hartland. I quit using that exit en route to EMU and have found a back way in but I sometimes use that exit for other uses and it's a pain with traffic and the long lights.

Increased density, mass transit, and non-motorized transportation are all good. But what appears to be totally missing is any thought as to how to make traffic more orderly and less congested. What is already a disaster at peak times is only going to become more of a grid-lock as you add density. Even if you improve alternative means of transportation, I doubt that there will be fewer vehicles using the Washtenaw corridor without a major change in how we all travel. That is still many years away. The corridor is still going to be a major commuter route and a primary means to access downtown and the universities for the foreseeable future. Let's get the traffic flow figured out and fixed first, then coordinate the development with it. Otherwise, we are just prettying-up businesses and buildings that we still can't get to!

I agree about the traffic congestion. I live in Ypsi and drive to UM everyday and I avoid Washtenaw at all costs. Not because it's ugly, or doesn't have exciting businesses to look at or go to, but because the traffic is ridiculous. What takes me 15 minutes, max, at rush hour to drive the back way (Geddes) takes at least twice as long going down Washtenaw. And I waste tons of gas in the process sitting at lights.

The impossible sidewalk situation on Washtenaw should be job 1 even if they do nothing else. People walking or handicapped people with wheelchairs and scooters could go up Washtenaw even without a bus if the sidewalks didnt stop and start, with no curb cuts, and change from one side of the street to the other randomly again without curb cuts. Its a horrible hodgepodge of sidewalk danger.

Brett Lenart works for the (soon to be history) Washtenaw County Office of Strategic Planning. For what town is he a planning commissioner?

As a proud Ann Arborite who lives in the "ugly Ypsi" part of town as described by genericreg -- that is, east of Huron Parkway and a few blocks south of Washtenaw -- I'm not sure just what to think here.

On the one hand, that comment is clearly intended to be an insult directed at Ypsi, as well as the area of Ann Arbor in which I live, so perhaps I should be taking offense.

On the other hand, I've never found anything about Ypsi to be insult-worthy. I certainly enjoy going there to visit friends, attend events on the EMU campus, and patronize numerous fine restaurants. I particularly relish Depot Town, near which I lived many years ago, but I've had enjoyable times in downtown and other sections of the city, too.

So -- given that -- it would seem that I SHOULDN'T resent being placed in the "ugly Ypsi" locale.

AndyYpsilanti -- I think I would have written exactly the same thing that you did.

Heya AAFish -- I live in that same area south of Washtenaw too -- and it's probably one of the best kept secret neighborhoods in Ann Arbor, and I am sure not included in the previous Ypsi slur.

However, I will be the first to agree that stretch of Washtenaw between Huron Parkway and Carpenter is just the ugliest and most ridiculous stretch of Ann Arbor road anywhere -- I avoid it at all costs (as do most of us in this neighborhood as I am sure you know)...and I pity any company that tries to open there until a master transportation plan is completed first.

There was a reason some of these roads used to be one way once upon a time.

The most exciting part about this story - that several units of government would actually work together to realize the same vision. We're all in this together, and the sooner we shape and execute land use, transportation, and job creation plans that benefit an area larger than city or township boundaries, the better we will all be. Washtenaw Ave. could be so much more than it is - human beings designed this street solely for car-users, and human beings can redesign it for so much more than it is today.

Several commentors mention auto traffic congestion as a concern on Washtenaw Avenue. Various sections of Washtenaw Ave are M-17, US-23 business route, and I-94 business route - auto traffic will definitely have to be considered in any planning efforts on the corridor.
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Part of redevelopment along the corridor would be implementation of the "Access Management Plan" that MDOT and the municipalities prepared in 2007. This plan addresses intersections, driveways, and other potential "conflict" points in order to smooth traffic and improve the roadway's functioning and capacity. Redevelopment can often be the best opportunity to do this implementation, in fact - it is easier to coordinate a new development's driveways and parking than to think about combining or realigning driveways for existing businesses without making other changes.
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Addressing traffic congestion could also include providing better alternatives to drivers on the corridor. Certainly, transit, walking, and biking can't serve everybody currently driving on Washtenaw, but could be looked at as ways to allow some drivers to get to their destinations without driving.

This is a longstanding grievance of Ypsi commuters, but an express bus from downtown Ypsi to downtown A2 would seem to provide a lot of benefit for little cost. As it is, a 20 minute car commute takes an hour (!) on the bus during rush hour. I would take the bus every day if it didn't cost me an hour of my life. Charge extra, if you need to. I bet AATA could actually turn a profit on that route (for a change).

In response to Whither Detburger, the presenters mentioned that demand for transit is there and this route is AATA's most popular. The long travel time is acknowledged. A solution that's part of the plan is to cluster bus riders at the transit nodes so there would be fewer stops and faster progress along the route.

There's a discussion under way on Mark Maynard's blog about the ugliness along Washtenaw Avenue and what part of it belongs to which community.

I'm now raising my hand in response to the Happy Senior's facetious question. My wife and I purchased a home in this area precisely because of the access to public transit, and proximity to shopping that allows us to get by without using our car most of the time.

But we were lucky to find something, because there isn't much housing available in higher density, mixed-use developments. Anything the "action team" can do to improve the availability should help attract and retain more young (and old) professionals.