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Posted on Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 9:15 p.m.

Penn State dominates reeling Michigan football team, 35-10

By Dave Birkett


A Penn State defensive player holds up the ball as the referee signals Penn State ball after the Nittany Lions recovered a Michigan fumble during third-quarter action of Saturday.

Lon Horwedel |

Two-thirds of the way through the season, this is your Michigan football team. It’s better than last year, but it has holes and youth, and it’s not ready to compete with the heavyweights of the Big Ten.

Michigan scored an easy touchdown on the game-opening drive Saturday, then couldn’t get out of its own way, committing four turnovers in a convincing 35-10 loss to 13th-ranked Penn State.

After starting 4-0, the Wolverines (5-3, 1-3) have dropped three straight conference games and sit ninth in the Big Ten standings. “I’m obviously disappointed in our performance, but I’m not discouraged,” Michigan coach Rich Rodriguez said. “I’ve said many times to you all, we can’t beat ourselves with turnovers and mistakes and things like that. You play a good football team like Penn State and you have some of those mistakes, it’s going to snowball on you.” Starting quarterback Tate Forcier threw a late interception, and backup Denard Robinson lost two turnovers, one interception and one fumble, giving him seven in limited action this year. Carlos Brown also fumbled deep in Penn State territory, and Michigan took a safety on a snap that sailed out of the back of the end zone. The Wolverines have nine total turnovers and a minus-eight turnover margin in losses this month to Penn State and Iowa, the Big Ten’s highest-ranked teams. “Turnovers,” Brandon Graham said when asked what separates Michigan from the league’s best teams. “We want to get beat at our best, and if we don’t beat ourselves it’d be closer than that.” Save for a dominant opening drive, Michigan wasn’t in Penn State’s league Saturday. The Wolverines gained 70 yards on that first possession, capped by Brandon Minor’s 1-yard touchdown plunge, then managed just 180 the rest of the way (with 61 of those coming on an ill-fated final possession). Penn State, meanwhile, racked up 396 yards of offense in slippery conditions, and quarterback Daryll Clark tied a personal best with four touchdown passes. Clark finished 16-of-27 for 230 efficient yards, Graham Zug had three touchdown catches - two on the same play call against linebacker Stevie Brown - and Evan Royster added 100 yards rushing on 20 carries.

Tight end Andrew Quarless also scored on a 60-yard pass. “Just a bad day,” Graham said. Forcier, who practiced fully this week for the first time in a month, had a rough go, too. He was sacked five times, went more than a quarter between completions in the first half, and finished 13-of-30 passing for 140 yards. Still, the true freshman said he doesn’t feel like he’s regressed as a quarterback. Forcier led game-winning drives against Notre Dame and Indiana, but has completed less than 50 percent of his passes since. “I can say it a thousand times, I think we’re beating ourselves,” Forcier said. “Just reads that I’m not making that I need to be making. A lot of it’s preparation and a lot of that’s on me. I just got to prepare myself better for next week.” Michigan will become bowl eligible with a win next week over Illinois, the worst team in the Big Ten. Rodriguez said he doesn't expect any finger-pointing despite his team's rough October - Michigan is 1-3 this month with its lone win against FCS Delaware State. And Graham said he's not worried about the season spiraling out of control from here. "It’s all about where you finish," Graham said. "People are not going to remember this right now, they’re going to remember how you finish. That’s the goal right now. We got to finish, and that’s the concentration. That’s it." Dave Birkett covers University of Michigan football for He can be reached by phone at 734-623-2552 or by e-mail at Follow him on Twitter @davebirkett.



Mon, Oct 26, 2009 : 9:25 a.m.

Love it - Love it - Love it!!!


Sun, Oct 25, 2009 : 7:36 p.m.

You people are all disgusting, how you all call yourselves fans then give up on your team after one bad game is seriously messed up. Obviously this game was rough for everyone but it's just one game, if it weren't for two or three bad plays that didn't go our way this year we could easily be at 7-1, 3-1 conf. right now, including a win on the road against the best team in the Big Ten (and yet everyone is saying we aren't even competitive?!). This team is still rebuilding but is already showing improvement over last year, of course everyone would like us to come back and blow everyone out of the water but that's just not realistic. A lot of these guys are still young and will only get better with more experience, but all this stupid b***hing isn't helping anything, why don't you all shut up and try supporting your team instead?


Sun, Oct 25, 2009 : 6:20 p.m.

So Carrs "CALL FOR UNITY" will miraculously make Michigan start winning all their games again.Quick Lloyd,PLEASE call for unity(don't do it behind closed doors)do it in a national press conference.That way,our losing stops,all who try to sabbotage stops,and you prove once and for all that you are TRULY A MICHIGAN MAN!!Because apparently,coaching our program for 12 yrs. just wasn't enough!!Utter nonsense!!!Lets get 'em next week.GO BLUE!!!


Sun, Oct 25, 2009 : 3:53 p.m.

How are we progressing in the Big Ten: Indiana game, a close Michigan win MSU game, a close Michigan loss Iowa game, a close Michigan loss Penn State game, a Michiga loss and not close at all. We better beat the biting Illini......


Sun, Oct 25, 2009 : 3:05 p.m.

I said it before, RichRod's got bad karma. You beat up on poor DSU so you get your ass whooped by PSU.


Sun, Oct 25, 2009 : 8:24 a.m.

Tater, I don't know how you can simply say this loss is no big deal. No one, and I repeat NO ONE expected Michigan to lose like this. We were destroyed in EVERY facet of the game. Last I checked, Vegas didn't have Michigan as 25 point dogs. This is a big deal. Losing is ALWAYS a big deal. I appreciate the fact that you support RR through thick and thin, but blowing off a 25 point home loss to a team that hasn't looked this good all year? I don't even know how to begin analyzing those comments.


Sun, Oct 25, 2009 : 7:28 a.m.

...Lets start with a "small" thing... Until Rich Rod and the rest of his staff stop wearing those silly red wristbands we will be jinxed. It throws off our Vibe straight from the tunnel, a mass of Maize n Blue with some ugly red swatches thrown is horrible for our Mojo and it makes for bad photos. It is one other thing that will separate this regime from the rest. Everytime you see Meechigan getting their butts kicked with red wristbands on the sideline you will know it was during this dudes tenure. Why red? so he can be easily spotted on the sideline? uh, it certainly hasn't helped with team or sideline cohesion. because it is his favorite color? Is he aware that it is one of the team colors of our arch rival? You know Bo would never have allowed it from the beginning, we are further down the road and some fans seem to think it is trivial, not Me! Everytime they scan the sidelines and I see Rodriguez and the 4th string qb sporting those red wristband I feel nauseous. How did this get passed the board of regents, the AD, the student section! Imagine, when the schmuckeyes come to town our coach and his flunkies will be the only people in the Big House rooting for MICHIGAN, wearing red! disdainful, distracting, distasteful...I am ready to wake up from this Rich Rod nightmare...BAN THE WRISTBAND! Go Blue!


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 11:52 p.m.

Another record broken! Penn State had not won here in years but none of that seems to matter to RR who continues to not have his team ready to play. He has 2 recruiting classes in house for a total of 50+ players and yet we have holes everywhere. He ran a lot of talent off that help Michigan beat Florida and Tim Tebow. What a mistake. First cause should have been recruiting kids already here then adding to it. RR was arrogant enough to think he knew better and it is a disaster. If his contract is extended anytime soon that is a huge mistake. He has shown only that he can NOT compete in the big ten. He has made Michigan a joke. We dominated teams for years now they are beating us 2+ times in a row and we have only beaten lowly Indiana in the big ten. A bowl game is highly questionable considering where we have been. I see no improvement from last year other than we lost to Toledo now we beat Western. Not much to get to excited about. The coaching has been poor and the strength and conditioning is severly lacking when you look at how we get manhandled. POOR POOR POOR!!!!!


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 11:51 p.m.

Blueman Rick,you can't bring up the past.RR doesn't acknowledge/revisit the past(if you listen to most of his press conferences when they ask about the past).So,if he doesn't REVISIT the past,HOW does he actually LEARN from the past!? I haven't figured that out yet!And can our play calling get any worse?The plays that work,it seems,we go away from(like we are OVER thinking the plays or trying to be too smart when it isn't necessary.)But,I guess this is what the fans want.......a spread offense that can't be stopped!?Lets get it done next week.GO BLUE!!!


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 11:49 p.m.

At this point I'm hoping we don't get a bowl game. I'd like to keep us under the radar for another year or two. I can only take so much of us not being the perfect demigods we know we ought to be. Conventional wisdom is that we will get better because (and only because) we are Wolverines. I'm still drinking the koolaid but am down to my last few swigs.


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 11:34 p.m.

Freshmen, freshmen everywhere and boy the team did stink Coaches arguing confusion reigns made the Blue fans think We can't be proud of a team that's young fair weather fans say no Maybe next year we will be proud if the Blue is twelve and O.


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 11:33 p.m.

One more thing. RR has never understood the expectations, pride and history of our storied program and team. I almost think he is disdainful of it! I hope the new AD at Michigan gives this West Virginia no talent the boot! He sucks as a coach and all the coachs in the league laugh him to scorn! RR you suck!


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 11:30 p.m.

I was shocked, disgusted and demoralized watching my beloved Wolverines get embarassed at the Big House. RR is a crappy coach, he needs to be canned. He dosn't get it! His pop-warner sized defense is getting mauled by Big-10 offensive lines. I wonder how we even beat ND! That game is starting to look like a fluke the way the Wolverines have played this month. I wonder if we will even win another game this season. Looking at the last four games, I think we only have a shot against a crappy Illinois team next week. If we are fortunate to be invited to a bowl game, we wil undoubtedly get out head handed to us! I think Tate Forcier stinks. This kid is a pee-wee sized midget, who is not only a crappy passer but is freaking slow. I think Nick sheridan should be called up, he reeks, butn so does TF and Denard. He can't pass his way out of a wet paper bag. Shockingly, he ain't all that fast either. Fire RR and lets' restore order in Michigan. Go Blue!


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 11:29 p.m.

I was shocked, disgusted and demoralized watching my beloved Wolverines get embarassed at the Big House. RR is a crappy coach, he needs to be canned. He dosn't get it! His pop-warner sized defense is getting mauled by Big-10 offensive lines. I wonder how we even beat ND! That game is starting to look like a fluke the way the Wolverines have played this month. I wonder if we will even win another game this season. Looking at the last four games, I think we only have a shot against a crappy Illinois team next week. If we are fortunate to be invited to a bowl game, we wil undoubtedly get out head handed to us! I think Tate Forcier stinks. This kid is a pee-wee sized midget, who is not only a crappy passer but is freaking slow. I think Nick sheridan should be called up, he reeks, butn so does TF and Denard. He can't pass his way out of a wet paper bag. Shockingly, he ain't all that fast either. Fire RR and lets' restore order in Michigan. Go Blue!


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 10:37 p.m.

Yup, we are still a young team with glimmers of greatness but it appears big wins are not to be this year. We need to go back to basics in football. We must learn to consistently catch, tackle, block and not turnover the ball. Under current conditions we might win just one more game this season. BTW Penn State played well.


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 10:22 p.m.

Has Gardner qualified yet? Until he does, don't hang your hopes on him. Prediction: Gardner never sets foot in AA. Never. Unless a ringer qualifies for him.


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 10:06 p.m.

Oh my God! How satisfying is this? RichRod is a standard NCAA hack, not to mention a crook. Blue has always claimed it stood for more. Bo was a prince--tru dat. Lloyd was a stand-up guy. But we wanted MORE. We wanted a guy like RichRod. Cut some corners. Violate some rules. Who cares, as long as we win? There were SO many of us who were bewildered by his hire. And now it's been proven: he's an idiot. And so are all of you who support him. Al least Tate seems like a really good guy. But where are all those posters who thought he looked like JOE MONTANA just a few weeks ago? He'll need a better coach to develop his talent, that's for sure. God, what a satisfying season this has been so far. At least we're good enough to beat Delaware State! Go Blue!


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 9:06 p.m.

Blueman Rick is right on all accounts. Forcier will be gone for sure because he's not gonna sit behind Gardner the next three years. RR pulls TF every chance he gets to get the "athletic" QB in the game. Sure TF has not played well in awhile and his shoulder is hurt but he still gives them the best chance to win. In 2 years you will see D. Rob where he belongs, slot receiver which is where he should be this year. I don't blame him as much as I blame the coaches. He clearly does not know enough at this point to play QB and they are playing him there anyway. RR is hurting the team by putting him at QB and not where he should be. They both should be on the field because it would cause alot of problems for any defense.


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 8:43 p.m.

Considering how well the backups were perceived by many fans last week, maybe RR should have put the backups in today when the game was our of control. They couldn't have played much worse. Who knows, maybe they would have wanted the game more.

Blueman Rick

Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 8:30 p.m.

Why are we so hard on RR? Well, let's see...First LOSING season since 1967, Worst record ever by a 1st year Michigan coach, Most losses in school history (129 years), Worst home losses, SIX, in U of M history, Illinois scored a school record 45 points against Michigan, Juice Williams broke the Big House all purpose yards record w/ 431 yards, we lost to Toledo and were run off the field in Columbus. What more do you want? We expect & demand a WINNER!

Do Better

Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 8:13 p.m.

Why do you Michigan fans beat RR down?


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 8:04 p.m.

I still see those treadmarks that Illinois left on M last year. Not promising, even though they have shown nothing all year.

Blueman Rick

Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 7:53 p.m.

"Illinois is no gimme." You're darn right. They are down so far that they have nothing to lose. Beating Michigan will help salvage their pride and season. Juice is ready to run wild.


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 7:48 p.m.

From this game we learned that Michigan should never have seriously considered itself a contender for the Big Ten title. A more realistic goal would have been.500 in the Big Ten...a goal that would have been a true "stretch" for the program. Moving from the worst team last year to a.500 team would have been a worthy goal. Now, they're looking at 3-5 at best and probably 2-6 in conference play. Setting goals for remainder of the season - win at Illinois (not a gimme), play respectably against Purdue without turning the ball over 5 times, be competitive at Wisconsin, and keep it to within 3 scores against OSU.


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 7:48 p.m.

Does Delaware St. count towards getting us to a bowl? If not, the importance of the next two games will be magnified ten fold, imo. We'll need no less than 7-5 to go bowling.


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 7:45 p.m.

dzuck, I agree that we've got to win the next two. That would be demoralizing to lose to a hapless, directionless Illinois team no matter where the game is played. The same can be said of Purdue at home, under their FIRST year coach, especially considering they also went 3-9 last year. They're both games we've GOT to win to show some form of heading in the right direction and build momentum for the last two games.

Blueman Rick

Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 7:40 p.m.

5-7. 6-6 is optimistic. No bowl again.

Blueman Rick

Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 7:33 p.m.

Good point about Tate not improving. Rodriguez's continually hooking him for the hapless Robinson is frustrating and confusing him. I would not be surprised at all if he transfers to another school following this debacle season.

Jed I. Knight

Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 7:33 p.m.

I smell Roses - LOL!!!


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 7:27 p.m.

This discouraging and demoralizing loss shows how far we still need to go. Our receivers, linebackers, safeties, and corners just aren't good enough. I don't think our O-line and 1/2 of our D-line is getting the job done either. It's going to take time to fix. Tate is not getting better and that's HUGE are of concern. The passing offense stinks right now. Granted the tight ends dropped a lot of passes today. But, the wideouts and slot receivers are not doing enough either. The coaches need to come up with REAL passing schemes where Tate just doesn't scramble and improvise all the time. I can't think of ANY positives to take out of this game, which is sad.


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 7:25 p.m.

Point proven!


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 7:24 p.m.

U-M was dominated in virtually every facet of this game. The only players who stood out to me in a positive way were Mesko (good punts) and Brandon Graham (blocked punt and some good effort plays and stops). The rest of the players looked like warm weather players who didn't have the stomach to play in cold, wet, Big Ten weather. Too many dropped passes on offense and not enough protection, whereas the defense 'bend and not break' defense bent and broke like twigs. Penn State is a very good team but to me it looked like U-M just wilted and threw in the towel in the second half, which is inexcusable and a reflection on the coaching staff. I can't figure out how they could look so good marching down on the first drive and so pitiful after that. This game was painfully humilating and I hope they can somehow regroup and turn things around.

Blueman Rick

Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 7:23 p.m.

It is quite pathetic on so many levels, really. After a promising start, Rod puts in Robinson and has him throw? What? Why? And then he repeats the same boneheaded move in the second 1/2 and he fumbles. How many interceptions does Rodriguez want to see before deciding this guy CAN'T pass! Furthermore, seeing coaches Rodriguez, Gibson and Robinson involved in a first half sideline shouting match was swell. Fine leadership and cohesion boys. Sorry. I don't see them winning another game this year. Illinois is overdue for a big game. Hate to be cynical...but we are going to suffer through the same thing next year. Hopefully after that we can put the Rich Rodriguez era in the rear view mirror. Humiliating.


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 7:12 p.m.

Dave is on the money. And, expectations for the Michigan program need to be lowered to a realistic level. This was the worst team in the conference last year, arguably, and this year is only somewhat better. To have a goal of winning the conference is more than a "stretch" goal- it's unrealistic. Coaches need to estblish a goal of going.500 in the conference - that would have been a stretch goal for this year. And, they will not achieve it this year - just not performing at a level competitive in the Big Ten. They are playing well enough to be 3-5 at best and more likely 2-6. Program has fallen far and will take a long time to bring back.


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 7 p.m.

I was very critical of Michigan for scheduling such a weak nonconference slate, and I think today's performance backs me up. All the "non-trolls" were saying how great we were last week, how we got in all the backups, how it was a needed break, whatever. I maintain that you learn nothing about your own team by playing teams that are clearly inferior. I believe the non-Big 10 schedule this year did not get Michigan ready to face the B10 (which is not even good anyway), and last week only allowed the team and coaches to not recognize reality. Shame on Bill Martin for scheduling that "game", shame on the coaching staff for not having any response to B10 competition, especially today. And, one thing that really bothered me today was how Rod did not go out of shotgun on his own goal line--I said to my spouse before the safety that doing shotgun in that spot on the field is only going to lead to a safety--and boom, the next play. Isn't that the same thing that happened last year to Threet at PSU? Shame on Rod for not adjusting and continuing to be so stubborn. And that stupid shotgun prevented us from a touchdown at the end of the first half by another bad snap. (Before Tate's bonehead play of spiking the ball). But worst of all was Rod yelling at the other coaches on the sidelines. That is not decorum becoming of a head coach in the B10 or Michigan.


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 6:58 p.m.

Nice call turdfurgeson, we spend the entire offseason discussing the potential, possibilities & hope for the upcoming season, as it stands today blue is 5-3 w/ 4 reg. season games remaining, let's enjoy the conclusion of the season then sharpen the axe if one chooses to do so. GO BLUE!


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 6:58 p.m.

Jeremy, Love the good word for Carr, and I'm sure he will continue to support RR as long as he is the coach of the university he loves. As for what is happening right now, I'm in disbelief. I really thought Michigan had a shot today. Obviously I misjudged badly. Outside of the continuing trends towards bad defense and turnovers, I'm seeing another disturbing trend of our undersized lines getting manhandled on both sides of the ball. I'm sure Barwis has them strong and in great cardio shape, but they just appear too small to hold their position against the bigs in the Big Ten, in my opinion. Whatever the case, they are being dominated up front. I'm going to withhold further judgment until more games play out, but today is a gut shot to all supporters of the Michigan least to this one.


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 6:55 p.m.

Are defense has been crap all year besides BG personally I really dont think warren is that great he gets beat alot to, the scheme there running isent working and can anyone tell me why we blitz on every 3rd down and leave are CB in man to get beat...the game got outta hand when you cant make a D stop they score and your offense has to throw the ball..when we dont run we dont play well..but we new we had a young team and overall they are alot better then last year and isent that what we all can acutally ask for... Go Blue


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 6:53 p.m.

It's amazing how fair weather most people are. First few games of the year, everyone is excited and proud of the team. After a bad loss, fire everyone and give up all hope for the future. Yes, they looked terrible for most of the game but why not wait for the end of the season to make a judgment on the team. They do need to fix the issues at the center possition. There were also many dropped balls that were catchable. I think D-Rob needs to be used in more situations.


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 6:49 p.m.

Let's see... 4-0 start = greatly exceeds expectations, two tough road losses & one horrible loss. Today's game looked as if blue was not prepared, but how much of that was due to the play of PSU? Let's see if blue responds against a down Illini team (on the road), the one positive I saw was the no quit with the "D", although still not as talented as U of M nation would hope for & expect.


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 6:49 p.m.

Michigan is a very young team, but the missed snap, the receiver not catching the ball, the lack of passing routs in the 7 to 10 yard range thats the coaches and coaching....I did not think Michigan would win this game, but I did not think they would play this bad......I just look for sign that the team will be good in the future......did not see much today....Is Rich the one?

Jon Saalberg

Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 6:41 p.m.

My brother tells me RR gets at least two more years. At this rate, that quarter billion dollar stadium is going to be full of rich and irate alumni - truly embarrassing UM football for the second year in a row.


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 6:29 p.m.

RR's record against the Big Ten 3 wins and 9 losses. Same thing at WV he was 7-11 against top 25 teams. It is sad to see MI football dominated. We use to dominate these teams. We hired the wrong coach.


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 6:21 p.m.

Birkett, the last interception did not make him look like a freshman.? That is a very common occurrence at the end of games when teams are throwing it to the end zone for a last play final score. You guys keep wanting to target Tate, personally he had a decent game - up & down. WHAT EVERYONE IS MISSING IS THAT MOLK IS THE BIGGEST FACTOR WITH THIS UP AND DOWN OFFENSE RIGHT NOW. THEY MOVED RIGHT DOWN THE FIELD WHEN HE WAS IN...WITH HIM OUT, ANOTHER STORY.


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 6:18 p.m.

anyone else notice the secondary was at least three steps away from every PSU catch today??? Graham was the only one who played with any heart... and Robinson adds another fumble and interception to his stats...


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 6:12 p.m.

We need size. Has anyone ever watched a game twice to see how our linebackers get handled? How easy it is to mess up our secondary? Who would replace Brandon next year? Why do our corners play so far off the receivers? I hope RR understands the BIG TEN>


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 6:07 p.m.

This team is a bunch of pretenders they cant play with any team thats somewhat competitive they fold up under preasure the offense blows to inconsistent way to many turnovers what an embarassment they are in their own home good luck on getting a 6th win with this bunch and if they do im sure they will get embarassed in what ever bowl they make it to im sick of seeing this team rip out the hearts of those who cheer for them week in and week out they will be bottom feeders for at least 2 more years


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 6:06 p.m.

I was an avid supporter of Rich Rodriguez when he came to Michigan. I knew it was going to take him time to get the players he wanted and teach the team the offense, but I'm beginning to question his hire. It's not the losses that bother me, it's all the other issues that are concerning me. First of all RR has been historically not interested in his teams defense. Without a good defense this team will not win championships. Second of all the play calling and decision making is starting to get overwhelming, think DR at the end of the Iowa game, or the punt fake against MSU. The biggest about this that blows my mind is how Michigan will come out attacking hard, running north to south, passing down field, and then they will score. Then damn near every game they STOP doing that and start playing a different offense, which gets them 3 and outs, then for whatever reason they stick with what ISN'T working instead of going back to what they've scored with. RR is outclassed in this conference and refuses to admit it, which was evident with his "the big 10 isn't any more physical than the big east" quote, right... that's why our tiny defense is getting man-handled every game (except for graham). Third of all, half time adjustments, does this coaching staff even know how to make them? And finally, all the other negative baggage that has been associated with this team. The piss poor attitude of the players and coaches on the field, the not showing up to games, the troubles outside of the program (with grades, violations, and legal issues). I'm not so sure he was the right hire to make, I think a lot more than his W:L record needs to be looked at when the time comes to extend his contract. Remember, this is now a 5-3 team who only has one win that isn't against a joke of an opponent.


Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 6:02 p.m.

Lloyd spoke out today on this article you lloyd bashers and then send him your apologies. Now shut that drunk leach up.

james Kurtz

Sat, Oct 24, 2009 : 6:01 p.m.

Many UM weaknesses showed up today: 1. No pass rush; 2 Defensive backfield is weak; 3 Offensive line inconsistent. At this rate they have no chance against Ohio state, Wisconsin or Purdue. I would even consider the thought that Tate is to small and not fast enough for the QB position. Sorry to be pessimistic but it is what it is.