Posted on Sat, Nov 21, 2009 : 7:16 p.m. Rich Rodriguez's post-game press conference By Dave Birkett Comments Deek Sun, Nov 28, 2010 : 12:45 p.m. What's really sad is not once during the full conference did he ever mention his seniors/show concern for them that they never beat OSU. That was one of the first things Tressel said about what the game meant to him. Not that HE won 7 or 6 in a row, not about him...about the TEAM. I also can't stand how earlier in the year he was asked about why the defense was playing so poorly and he essentially said, he not responsible for the D, it's hard enough working on the offense... And the special teams is a freaking joke. RIch Rod is slimy from the head down to his toe nails. nineblock Tue, Nov 24, 2009 : 2:14 p.m. Go to this link and read the comments from Les Miles after the LSU loss to Ole Miss. For all you RR loyalists who want to know what is a "Michigan man"...look no further. I'm sure Miles could have argued (and rightfully so) that he had better players, more talent and therefore it must have been their fault...they didn't play their A game etc. But Miles takes responsibility and understands his role as a part of a team. Can you picture RR making these same comments? http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4683928 holden Mon, Nov 23, 2009 : 2:21 p.m. I think most people that have complaints about Rich are legitimate in their concerns. I know that I'm pretty down about our 6th consecutive loss to OSU. I just don't understand how such a storied program with so much money can't get a coach that wins games. I lost a lot of respect for Rich after his decision to take Tate out of the Iowa game. I personally think that he was upset that Tate wasn't doing well and punished him as a result. I just can't believe that I've seen Rich arguing and yelling at players and coaches alike. I think he's a redneck and doesn't belong at Michigan. He could very well prove me wrong, but I don't see the spread doing well at Michigan. I hope I'm wrong and I will continue to support him and my team, but this is insane right now and I for one am not happy with what I've seen. I no I'm not alone there, but rebuilding sucks and it didn't work for Nebraska. So Rich, if you're reading this please get this train rolling and bring us back to where we belong in the upper echelons of NCAA football. TruthMan Mon, Nov 23, 2009 : 8:50 a.m. My Father had a saying... No one can profit from ill-gotten gains. The entire procedure of acquiring RR from West Virginia was illegal and tainted everything about his addition to Michigan. From disappointing his bowl bound players at WVA, to abandoning his loyalty to his old school, to lying about the payoffs, to lying about practice schedules, to disappointing results on the field, players at Michigan leaving, everything has been negatively influenced by his taint... some would say contaminated. The only way out is to start all over again. Sorry Bill Martin, this is one huge black mark on your remarkable record. AC Sun, Nov 22, 2009 : 11:52 p.m. RR aka Demolition Man cause he sure knows how to level projects to the ground. heartbreakM Sun, Nov 22, 2009 : 9:50 p.m. Michiganiac--actually, Bo had a few walk-ons succeed wildly in the 1970s. He talks about it in his book he co-authored with John Bacon right before his death. You should read it if you haven't already. And also, Michigan had a somewhat dysfunctional non-walk on QB when RR came on as coach, named Ryan Mallett. You may want to google him. He just finished a pretty mediocre year at Arkansas. Only 9 wins--which is exactly 1 more than RR has in 2 years. Set an SEC record in yards. Now, it is debatable whether Mallett wanted to stay--he was a bit of a nut case but he apparently grew up and is now doing OK. But you can't blame Carr for that. I don't know that RR deserves it either, but he does deserve blame for not getting Denard Robinson ready to play by the last game of the season. And he deserves blame for not having Tate Forcier ready for the second half of this season. And he deserves blame for not making any of his players better (other than Roy Roundtree) from start to finish of this year. As RR says, we can only talk about who is here, and of who is here, who has he improved? Jaxon5 Sun, Nov 22, 2009 : 9:10 p.m. In my book the team was twice as bad this year as it was last year. Last year 2 Big Ten wins with more of Carr's recruits. This year only 1 Big Ten win with fewer Carr recruits. Jaxon5 Sun, Nov 22, 2009 : 9:10 p.m. In my book the team was twice as bad this year as it was last year. Last year 2 Big Ten wins with more of Carr's recruits. This year only 1 Big Ten win with fewer Carr recruits. Michiganiac Sun, Nov 22, 2009 : 6:53 p.m. AZ, Jaxon5 and all of you that asume because the last year carr was here they went 7-1 or the year before 6-2 in the big ten. that rr should of been better then 3-9. ask yourself this, when over the history of michigan(which az your so keen to bring up) did michigan ever and i'm mean ever have a walkon starting at qb?Or the two they have starting on D this year? face it the depth inherrited by rr combined with key tranfers made for an unwinnable situation. Most of the coaches you named that have sucsess in year two have soild team to build from in year one. we didn't so year two is pretty much like year one because unlike the nfl you have no free agents and no trades. you cann't just bring in exprience players ready to pick up were the last ones left off. unless they're there,at the school ready to run with with what the new guy brings in. and the hand full of starting seniors say there wasn't alot to just pick up and run with maizenbluedoc Sun, Nov 22, 2009 : 12:27 p.m. azwolverine: You posted your opinion, just as I did. It matters little what you or I say, RR's tenure depends upon the actions of the administration. Maybe they are just as obstinate as RR by not admitting they made a bad choice. I can speculate like all other posters and vent my frustration, but nothing will change until someone changes it. I agree, RR is in over his head, but could another coach have a team winning the Big Ten after two years? That, I don't know, but it is apparent that many want major results within two years. I don't know whether firing RR will wolve the problem or not, but it sure hasn't helped the Cleveland Browns (I am a fan for 56 years) by having a new coach every 2-3 years. The old adage applies, "be careful for what you wish....you just may get it". Jaxon5 Sun, Nov 22, 2009 : 12:20 p.m. For Julie312's benefit...using pure intellect now... Big Ten Record 2003 7-1 2004 7-1 2005 5-3 2006 7-1 2007 6-2 xxxxxxxx 2008 2-6 2009 1-7 julie312 Sun, Nov 22, 2009 : 12:01 p.m. What credentials do you all possess that empower you to criticize a coach who inherited a mess: a program already in decline. Mathematically speaking, no team can win every year, let alone yearly secure a berth in a bowl game. Use your intellect, not your emotions. Let RR do what he needs to do! dacianman Sun, Nov 22, 2009 : 11:48 a.m. While everyone agrees that RR has some more to learn about being a head-coach in the Big Ten, it's abvious his heart is in the right place and he CAN turn things around BUT -- not without getting the right offensive and deffensive co-ordinators. Experienced coaches who know and understand the college way of coaching and who can form a "coaching team" without which things won't improve regardless of how talented RR may be. We all saw the ugly public displays of dissagreemet between coaches themselves, and coaches and players. That kills morale and confidence. Many of us could have called better offensive plays than he called, particularly when callin the abvious. It was like calling the other team's coach and saying "Hey! We're putting Robinson in and he's going to run, just so you know. Hey! He got a few yards, so he's going to run again!" Even the TV commentators made fun of that... Papabear151 Sun, Nov 22, 2009 : 11:03 a.m. RR wore a red wristband at the Mich OSU game, that right there shows just how little he belongs at Michigan if he can't even understand the rivalry. Chappuies Sun, Nov 22, 2009 : 11:01 a.m. Football will get better under RR. Look at Charlie Weiss, he lost (he had 5 yrs), look at your UM man Jim H. he lost last night. Where is Lloyd C. in all of this and his support. I have been a UM Fan since I was 8 yrs. old, now 71. I say, keep the faith and support the coach. Once he gets some defensive players, games we lost this year will be wins later. I really like our offense and young players will make mistakes. If we played a mistake free game yesterday, I truly believe we would have beaten OSU or at least would have been real close scoring. LETS FACE IT FOLKS, THE CUPBOARD WAS LEFT EMPTY BY LLOYD C., SO SOME OF THE BLAME LIES ELSEWHERE. azwolverine Sun, Nov 22, 2009 : 8:28 a.m. By the way, just saw Les Miles speak after the LSU loss. Who did he blame? The players? Nick Saban? The media? No. He blamed himself. No one else, didn't pass the buck, throw anyone under the bus or make loser excuses. He put the blame squarely on his own shoulders. Whether he had ever played here before or not, THAT is the makeup of a Michigan man. THAT is the type of coach we need. NoBowl4Blue Sun, Nov 22, 2009 : 8:19 a.m. Humbled again? Project? Will one day be good again? Look this team has had 18 players leave since RR came in DUH THERE IS A REASON. This chump has to go and a Michigan man has to take this program back where it should before it's set back anymore than it already is. azwolverine Sun, Nov 22, 2009 : 7:41 a.m. I'm sorry, I didn't mean RR had a lack of results, as I've already explained he does have results. I meant that he has a lack of any POSITIVE results. azwolverine Sun, Nov 22, 2009 : 7:38 a.m. maizeandbluedoc, I'll read you a list of coaches who HAVE yielded immediate results: Urban Meyer, Jim Tressel - National Championships in year 2 at programs that were in no better shape than Michigan when RR took over. Pete Carrol - 11-2 w/Organge Bowl win in year 2 with program in AWFUL shape when he took over. Paul Johnson (Ga Tech) - total program shift (ala RR) yet took losing team before he got there and immediately went 9-4 year one, currently 10-1 year two. Steve Sarkisian - winless Washington beat USC in year one along with obvious progress. Gene Chizek - took over a losing Auburn team and turned them into immediate winners. I could go on, but you get the point. And, I will give RR credit, he also yielded immediate results. He took over a team that had 41 straight winning seasons and IMMEDIATELY lead them to two straight losing seasons. That's immediate results. Although neither will get the chance to prove it because it appears we will be stuck with this proven loser for another season, I believe Les Miles or Jim Harbaugh would come in and have IMMEDIATE progress in year 1. Let's not forget Harbaugh showed immeidate and continuous progress in every year at Stanford, taking over a 1-11 team and immediately winning FOUR TIMES more games in year 1. Hopefully I've answered your question and you are now on board with the fact that RR should be fired for lack of results. vi4mi4 Sun, Nov 22, 2009 : 4:41 a.m. ... he won't be fired, remember this is the same "administration" that self imposed taking down the Fab 5 banners...they have 2.5 million a year to burn on this red wristband wearing bum, while the state unemployment rate is 15%...i bet Ron English would have took the job for HALF the money and kept the bowl and winning season streaks intact... losing team, new luxury suites... no financial accountability... our beloved MICHIGAN has been hijacked, Where is Lloyd Carr during all this mess??!! i will never forget seeing a MICHIGAN coach wear a red wristband on the MEECHIGAN sideline for two entire seasons without reprimand or explanation... TRAITOR, SPY, MOLE, INFILTRATOR! Go Blue! v vi4mi4 Sun, Nov 22, 2009 : 4:06 a.m. ...i can't even watch this whole thing, this is the man who destroyed Michigan Football... v vi4mi4 Sun, Nov 22, 2009 : 4:05 a.m. "these kids have been through alot"...uh, yeah, Everybody has been through alot...look at UConn., what is he talking about?? where is his Red wristband?? FIRE rich red! Go Blue! v AC Sun, Nov 22, 2009 : 1:25 a.m. I seriously urge RR to read "BO'S LASTING LESSONS" book by John U. Bacon maybe he can learn a thing or two about coaching, leadership, integrity, respct, adapting to talent, recruiting.....RESPECTING TRADITION. It's the perfect book for him. heartbreakM Sun, Nov 22, 2009 : 12:40 a.m. RR is all about excuses and phrases (All In For michigan?????). He is all about finger pointing. What he is not about is winning. He is not about admitting failure. I hope that in the future, he is not about being Michigan's coach. His quote about the last 3-4 Februaries is reason enough for LC to never ever support him publicly. He is essentially blaming LC for his failures in his first 2 years, quite openly. Shame on RR. A Disagrace!! kerch65 Sun, Nov 22, 2009 : 12:29 a.m. come on chad hene was a true freshman and he took us to the rosebowl face it tate is not the answer he gets worse every week hes color blind he couldnt throw to the guys in the blue jerseys he kept throwing to the guys in the white not to menton his little baby hands cant hold onto a football as for rr hes got to go now because his team has not improved at all this season instead they went backwards in development thats all coaching. you want instant results then bring in Brian Kelly look at what hes done, no excuses he just goes out and wins BlueInBama Sat, Nov 21, 2009 : 10:51 p.m. Define "immediate results." You have to look at the big picture. Rodriguez came in here and gutted the place. I've said this before and I'll say this again : Great coaches adapt their philosophy to utilize the talent on-hand for success. Rodriguez came in with a system that is NOT flexible, to say the least. This is NOT the Big East. Nick Saban and Urban Meyer understand this. The truth of the matter is that Rodriguez expects Michigan to endure multiple years of losing seasons before we see results. This is NOT acceptable. The man is in over his head, and he knows it. 3-9, 5-7 is pathetic. His shortcomings are numerous, and he just doesn't have an answer. Bottom line : He doesn't belong at Michigan. maizenbluedoc Sat, Nov 21, 2009 : 10:07 p.m. BlueInSC: I don't think he was making excuses, but stating fact. He and the team will be humbled again because this team is a project in the making and cannot be corrected easily. If there is little or no improvement after next year, then it is time for someone to take a hard look at RR and his coaching staff. Rodriguez may or may not be the coach for Michigan, but I would like for someone to identify the perfect coaching acquisition who can obtain IMMEDIATE results. BlueInBama Sat, Nov 21, 2009 : 9:24 p.m. Notice he said, "we'll be humbled again." Already making excuses for his future failures at Michigan... This guy is beyond low-class. Jaxon5 Sat, Nov 21, 2009 : 9:03 p.m. I would have asked Coach what school he would hold up to his team as one to emulate. Would it be Northwestern? No, that would be too much a reach for next season. That's going to take a few years. Let's start with Purdue - we should try to play at least at Purdue's level next season. Let's try to win 2 games in the conference and we'll be twice as good next year. azwolverine Sat, Nov 21, 2009 : 8:58 p.m. Things WILL get better. It's just a matter of how soon and who will our coach be when they do... By the way, a play here and a play there against ND and Indiana and we're 3-9. Can't use that argument. The plays went as they went and Michigan had it's second straight losing season for the first time since '61-'62. Not good.