JimB

Wed, Mar 23, 2011 : 2:53 p.m.

Agreed that the Fab 5 wasn't the "highlight of Michigan basketball". How can anyone forget the Gary Grant & Antwoine Joubert (sp) era? It seemed like Grant was there forever. Or the Mike McGee days? Even the crowd yelling "Stoyko" for the 3rd string Stan Styko to be put into the game. The Fab 5 were an era, not the pinnacle.

trigg7

Wed, Mar 23, 2011 : 3:59 a.m.

"His thoughts and feelings are very real and are a reflection of how many of us feel about the Dukes and ND of the world." Your joking right ? How many times do we have to hear or read this is Michigan! Bla,bla bla,l eaders and best. I belive most poeple feel the same way about UM! Try being sandwitched between ND and UM the two most pompus schools in the nation. yea, it was clear to me what Jalen said, Uncle tom is just a term you through around.What a fool.

azwolverine

Wed, Mar 23, 2011 : 2:40 a.m.

Get over it, Whitlock. Rose is a class act and was speaking of how he felt as an 18 year-old kid. He now says he looks to raise his kids the same way Hill's parents raised him. This is, as Shakespeare once said, Much Ado About Nothing.

lumberg48108

Wed, Mar 23, 2011 : 2:39 a.m.

@fjord if the documentary was so clear - and since it was his words and he produced it - why has their been so many clarifications? why did u have to go on ESPN to &quot;clarify&quot; things ...? If the message was so clear - why were so many confused? confusion in a message you control (like a documentary) wreaks of inexperience in dealing with such things why did Jalen have to Tweet to Grant Hill and others BEFORE the doc cam out -explaining things? and this was Whitloclk's second column on the documentary.. the first ran March 15 ... hardly piling on <a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/ESPN-The-Fab-Five-documentary-Jalen-Rose-Chris-Webber-Juwan-Howard-Jimmy-King-Ray-Jackson-031511" rel='nofollow'>http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/ESPN-The-Fab-Five-documentary-Jalen-Rose-Chris-Webber-Juwan-Howard-Jimmy-King-Ray-Jackson-031511</a> Whitlock is right or wrong - but bringing up he works for Fox Sports (like its run by Glen Beck ) weakens your arguements) @michboy40 Whitlock was right on about why Duke and others dont recruit Fab Five type players ...-- and the fact is - his perception is correct bothers people ... best point he made was this -- U-M does not recruit Fab Five types anymore - and Duke never stopped the way it does things Where has Duke gone since 1992? And where has U-M gone? That is their legacy!

psaume23

Wed, Mar 23, 2011 : 1:06 a.m.

The &quot;high point&quot; of Michigan basketball was definitely not the Fab Five era. The 1989 season was the high point. While the Fab Five were fun to watch, what happened to the program after the scandal broke made it all seem not at all worthwhile. Since the scandal, what was particularly noticeable was not only the empty areas of the rafters, but also the too many empty seats in Crisler Arena.

Engineer

Wed, Mar 23, 2011 : 12:04 a.m.

Are you dding me? Jason did not get that this was about when they were in college? The entire show was about then not now. Jason needs to rewatch. He did not defend Michigan when the NCAA was on a witch hunt so I would not expect him to do so now. He probably even thought the referees where on the up and up this year during the Dukie game.

WWBoDo

Tue, Mar 22, 2011 : 10:29 p.m.

&quot;It is saddening to me that the highpoint of Michigan basketball has been tarnished and erased from history&quot; You have got to be kidding. High Point? What about the 1989 Championship? How about the Cazzie Russell era--those were the Fab Five--they accomplished more than the Fab Five. Won Big Ten Championships three years in row, went to the NCAA's when you had to win the Big Ten and went to the Final Four twice, the Finals once? I would argue that was a High Point! Fab Five--did not win anything--never won the Big Ten. Yes, a very talented group of five freshman, then sophs. But, to say they did it all as freshman takes alot away from Voskuil, Pelinka, Riley, et. al. Many teams accomplish as much or more with young players. Here are my issues: They are well known for being talented, yes, for being brash and obnoxious, but not for winning championships. They brought Michigan big shorts, black socks, bald heads but no championships. The program repudiated disgusting letters written to the program by fans(?)--as they should, however, saluted Rose for researching his opponents so that he could say hurtful things ('Trash Talk') to the opponent players. Behavior Michigan should be proud of--represents a high point? Mary Sue Coleman, at the end of the program, said she hated that they had to take down the Championship Banners. Ms. Coleman, look again, those were simply progress reports! That's the problem, though, people think they won championships! So, lets not carried away with what they accomplished--particularly given the ruins that the program was left as a result of this Fabulous group! C'mon! All in all, not a high light of the programs history!

Edward R Murrow's Ghost

Tue, Mar 22, 2011 : 9:51 p.m.

&quot;It is saddening to me that the highpoint of Michigan basketball has been tarnished and erased from history&quot; I guess the NC in 1989 didn't mean anything? Good Night and Good Luck

braggslaw

Tue, Mar 22, 2011 : 9:24 p.m.

It is saddening to me that the highpoint of Michigan basketball has been tarnished and erased from history

81wolverine

Tue, Mar 22, 2011 : 8:30 p.m.

I've never been a fan of Jason Whitlock, back to when he wrote for the Ann Arbor News. He's always used his writing to bring up racial issues even if they weren't a major impact on what he was writing about. In this case, I will agree on his view of bitterness being bad for any young man/woman regardless of color. Still I agree with others that this whole Jalen quote has been blown out of proportion and dominating sports talk ad nauseum. Let's drop the whole thing and focus on something positive shall we?

Macabre Sunset

Tue, Mar 22, 2011 : 8:28 p.m.

I think Whitlock made several good points. Points that can be made about many single-parent households. That's the real &quot;gap&quot; the AAPS should focus on understanding.

fjord

Tue, Mar 22, 2011 : 6:30 p.m.

Whitlock is trying to stoke a fire where there was barely smoke. Much of his column is rooted in the following astonishing claim: &quot;It was not clear that Rose was speaking as an 18-year-old when he disparaged Hill and other black Duke players.&quot; Really? Because it was 100% clear to me. Maybe when someone works for an organization like Fox, his powers of comprehension become dulled. What about Rose's comment wasn't clear to him? In context, it was quite clear that he was portraying the feelings of his teenage self. Whitlock deliberately ignores this context to make a point. It's a familiar Fox News tactic, and now it has contaminated Fox Sports. Lovely. I'd be less concerned if this deliberate misinterpretation of Rose's comments were confined to Jason Whitlock's column, but commentators all across the media spectrum picked up on the first misguided denouncements of Rose and carried them into the mainstream. (Whitlock piled on fairly late in the game, once he got a chance to gauge which way the winds were blowing.) Much effort has been put into discussions of parenthood and stable families in the black community, and many good points have been raised &mdash; though nearly all of it was tangential to Rose's actual comments. In the end, Rose has been vilified for relatively innocuous comments that few seem willing to accept in their original context. Now that's &quot;fair and balanced!&quot;

Cindy Heflin

Tue, Mar 22, 2011 : 5:59 p.m.

A typographical error was corrected in this article.

jcj

Tue, Mar 22, 2011 : 5:51 p.m.

Jason Whitlock&quot;s opinion is not the end all and be all of ANY sport. His comments sound more to me like he is trying to suck up to his next job!

treetowncartel

Tue, Mar 22, 2011 : 5:50 p.m.

Don't forget, when Jalen played for the Pacers he was checking Michael Jordan in the and he did a great job of guarding him. He was a very versatile player, capable of playing 4 positions on the floor. And then, he would take those ill advised shots when he was here and they would actually go in at times.

Mick52

Tue, Mar 22, 2011 : 5:47 p.m.

I think Whitlock's makes assumptions that are way off base. I thought it was odd that Grant Hill responded to this after so many years and all these guys are grown up. You cannot blame Jalen Rose for being honest about how he felt back then. Hill should know him far better now. I watched the video last night and was kind of surprised how Rose described their play and personalities as &quot;shocking&quot; and beyond normal. I lived through it and never thought it was out of bounds or beyond what Michigan would tolerate. Whitlock's assertions that Michigan no longer recruits players like Rose now is ridiculous. I think Whitlock's article should have been ignored and not linked to A2.com

glimmertwin

Tue, Mar 22, 2011 : 5:45 p.m.

I watched this Sunday night but missed the first 10-15 minutes of it which must have been when he talked about this. My impression of Jalen Rose was much higher after seeing and hearing him talk about his history at Michigan and before. I came away with a new found respect for him. The way he spoke up for his teammates, the coaches and even the gambler guy I found very convincing. His description of the the &quot;drug house&quot; episode made perfect sense to me. I came away liking the guy.

Smiley

Tue, Mar 22, 2011 : 5:32 p.m.

I have to agree with michboy - the psychologists of the hour can run with Rose's comments all they want. Bottom line is he had a perception back when he played for UofM and it really motivated him. Why do we overanalyze so much and put everything on ritalin and prozac?

michboy40

Tue, Mar 22, 2011 : 4:32 p.m.

Jalen is only saying how he felt back then, right, wrong, or indifferent. I don't think he's trying to win a popularity contest, and if it stimulates a discussion that he did not intend, then so be it. His thoughts and feeling are very real and are a reflection of how many of us feel about the Duke's and ND's of the world.