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Posted on Thu, Feb 25, 2010 : 2:17 p.m.
Big Ten commissioner talks expansion, Michigan's NCAA allegations
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Comments
Sean T.
Sat, Feb 27, 2010 : 11:24 a.m.
Funny thing is now we're looking like lil' brother. One day we'll be on top again.
Michiganiac
Fri, Feb 26, 2010 : 7:07 p.m.
My focus has never shifted my hatred for notre dame is as strong as ever.But i guess that what happen when you live in south bend... as far a as MSU i realy never have disliked them.Mike Hart said it the best, little brother.You always wanted little brother to do good in sports,except when you two would go play a game.Then you wanted to beat little brother down so bad....so bad he went home crying to momma."MOM BROTHER BEAT MY 45 TO NOTHING" and alls mom could say is "well i guess next time you'll have to try harded" lol as far as Those guy from that other state you know the one.Well i thought terell pryor going there was fiting.Because every buck eye need a lil tp
tlb1201
Fri, Feb 26, 2010 : 12:36 p.m.
I agree with azwolverine. MSU has been on the upswing since Mark Dantonio arrived and UM has not done so well lately. But UM is still in a transition and only history wil tell us how that will all work out. Both schools have some issues to deal with, but of different types. MSU had some bad-apple players that unfortunately influenced a few others to do some dumb things. It appears that the worst instigators are now gone. Are the coaches partially to blame by picking some bad kids or having too little oversight? I don't know. UM's problem lies entirely with the actions of the coaching staff and administrators. The institutional side of things. With the exception of maybe Bill Martin, they are all still there --that's a big difference. Some kids screw up because they are still learning about life, but the "grown-ups" should know better. You know, leaders and the best and all of that stuff. Let's just hope that in UM's case, the large share of the punishment doesn't roll downhill to the kids instead of being directed toward the source of the "bad parenting". In the era of fat paychecks for "big-time" coaches, and administrators, a big chunk of the punishment should be directed toward a place that will be the most effective -the wallet! If people must be fired because of proven wrong-doing, there should also be a period of time where they can't just go on to another school. They need to have more than a little bad press at risk when they risk a school's and ultimately its student-athletes' reputation and well-being for their own gain. If UM finds itself currently looking up at MSU and OSU, look to who put them there and how they did it. Things have a way of changing over time, for better of for worse, so it won't always be this way. Karma can be a real drag!
BlueMom
Fri, Feb 26, 2010 : 9:14 a.m.
sorry, kids, but over the history of the rivalry -- UM is still on top......
Jaxon5
Fri, Feb 26, 2010 : 8:29 a.m.
Agreed. OSU has reached and sustained a distant level above Michigan in football and basketball both. It's not even close.
Sean T.
Thu, Feb 25, 2010 : 11:08 p.m.
Well said, AZWOLVERINE. We should focus on our withering program!
azwolverine
Thu, Feb 25, 2010 : 6:56 p.m.
Michigan fans, it's a sad day when the focus is so much on criticizing MSU. First, it shows that we've got nothing good to say about our own program. Second, it shows that we are becoming as obsessed by them as they always have been by us. Is it because, as bad as they are, they are currently better than us? I think so. Thirdly, imo, it shows that our focus has shifted away from OSU towards MSU because we have lowered our standards and goals. MSU is now the team we aim to beat because OSU has so far surpassed us. Sad.
michigan7011
Thu, Feb 25, 2010 : 4:41 p.m.
Metric is correct. The only person that can clean up the mess at MSU is the Governor by the way of pardons.
MetricSU
Thu, Feb 25, 2010 : 4:25 p.m.
Nice going, Delaney. "I know that the leadership at Michigan State, I know that President Coleman,...." Sorry, but this is Michigan's mess to clean up.
Comments
Sean T.
Sat, Feb 27, 2010 : 11:24 a.m.
Funny thing is now we're looking like lil' brother. One day we'll be on top again.
Michiganiac
Fri, Feb 26, 2010 : 7:07 p.m.
My focus has never shifted my hatred for notre dame is as strong as ever.But i guess that what happen when you live in south bend... as far a as MSU i realy never have disliked them.Mike Hart said it the best, little brother.You always wanted little brother to do good in sports,except when you two would go play a game.Then you wanted to beat little brother down so bad....so bad he went home crying to momma."MOM BROTHER BEAT MY 45 TO NOTHING" and alls mom could say is "well i guess next time you'll have to try harded" lol as far as Those guy from that other state you know the one.Well i thought terell pryor going there was fiting.Because every buck eye need a lil tp
tlb1201
Fri, Feb 26, 2010 : 12:36 p.m.
I agree with azwolverine. MSU has been on the upswing since Mark Dantonio arrived and UM has not done so well lately. But UM is still in a transition and only history wil tell us how that will all work out. Both schools have some issues to deal with, but of different types. MSU had some bad-apple players that unfortunately influenced a few others to do some dumb things. It appears that the worst instigators are now gone. Are the coaches partially to blame by picking some bad kids or having too little oversight? I don't know. UM's problem lies entirely with the actions of the coaching staff and administrators. The institutional side of things. With the exception of maybe Bill Martin, they are all still there --that's a big difference. Some kids screw up because they are still learning about life, but the "grown-ups" should know better. You know, leaders and the best and all of that stuff. Let's just hope that in UM's case, the large share of the punishment doesn't roll downhill to the kids instead of being directed toward the source of the "bad parenting". In the era of fat paychecks for "big-time" coaches, and administrators, a big chunk of the punishment should be directed toward a place that will be the most effective -the wallet! If people must be fired because of proven wrong-doing, there should also be a period of time where they can't just go on to another school. They need to have more than a little bad press at risk when they risk a school's and ultimately its student-athletes' reputation and well-being for their own gain. If UM finds itself currently looking up at MSU and OSU, look to who put them there and how they did it. Things have a way of changing over time, for better of for worse, so it won't always be this way. Karma can be a real drag!
BlueMom
Fri, Feb 26, 2010 : 9:14 a.m.
sorry, kids, but over the history of the rivalry -- UM is still on top......
Jaxon5
Fri, Feb 26, 2010 : 8:29 a.m.
Agreed. OSU has reached and sustained a distant level above Michigan in football and basketball both. It's not even close.
Sean T.
Thu, Feb 25, 2010 : 11:08 p.m.
Well said, AZWOLVERINE. We should focus on our withering program!
azwolverine
Thu, Feb 25, 2010 : 6:56 p.m.
Michigan fans, it's a sad day when the focus is so much on criticizing MSU. First, it shows that we've got nothing good to say about our own program. Second, it shows that we are becoming as obsessed by them as they always have been by us. Is it because, as bad as they are, they are currently better than us? I think so. Thirdly, imo, it shows that our focus has shifted away from OSU towards MSU because we have lowered our standards and goals. MSU is now the team we aim to beat because OSU has so far surpassed us. Sad.
michigan7011
Thu, Feb 25, 2010 : 4:41 p.m.
Metric is correct. The only person that can clean up the mess at MSU is the Governor by the way of pardons.
MetricSU
Thu, Feb 25, 2010 : 4:25 p.m.
Nice going, Delaney. "I know that the leadership at Michigan State, I know that President Coleman,...." Sorry, but this is Michigan's mess to clean up.