Michigan moves up to 28th on Rivals.com football recruiting list
The addition of offensive lineman Chris Bryant on Friday night pushed the Michigan football team's 2011 recruiting class to 28th on the Rivals.com team rankings.
Bryant is the fifth 4-star recruit, according to the Rivals' rating scale, to commit to Michigan. Adding him to the Wolverines' tally pushed them past Big Ten rivals Iowa (29th) and Michigan State (30th) in Saturday morning's updated rankings.
Scout.com lists Michigan in 29th place on its list.
Alabama, Texas and Florida State currently tops the 2011 Rivals list. The Big Ten's Ohio State and Nebraska are 11th and 15th, respectively.
Scout's top three are Texas, Florida State and Auburn. The Big Ten teams on that list include Ohio State (fourth), Nebraska (24th) and Michigan State (26th).
After being hired in mid-January, new Michigan coach Brady Hoke and his staff had three weeks to retain Rich Rodriguez's recruits (such as Bryant) and secure some of his own before national signing day on Feb. 2.
Hoke still has some work to do if he hopes to salvage a class that matches Michigan's traditional place on the Rivals' team rankings. Since 2002, the Wolverines have never finished outside the top 20 - they were 20th last year - and were in the top 10 four times.
Comments
Blu n Tpa
Tue, Feb 1, 2011 : 7:30 p.m.
Trublufan. Aren't you the one who said I was "drinking the Kool-aid" when I posted BH would bring in a Top 25 recruiting class this year, right after his 1st PC? You must own stock in that stuff. Anyway it's OK to want to wait with others until the season starts. It just seems odd that you're commenting on not being intrested in commenting about Michigan football on the Michigan football web site. TiM Go Blue!
truebluefan
Tue, Feb 1, 2011 : 4:07 p.m.
blu n tpa -- what is WCiMFH? Based on recent events, the things that happen between January and August don't really matter. Wins matter. I've learned to take all these ancillary moments with a grain of salt. Moments like winning over a 4-star recruit, or spring game performance, or weight room/conditioning exploits, or coach speak, etc. I'm sure I will be accused of being a RR apologist who is acting bitter and childish because RR is gone. This can't be further from the truth. I fully support Hoke and his staff and I sincerely hope Michigan gets back to the elite of 10, 11 and 12 wins per year, every year. But right now I am just finding it very difficult to drink from the Kool-Aid trough until I see positive results on the field in September through November.
Blu n Tpa
Tue, Feb 1, 2011 : 12:14 p.m.
Trublufan You are correct that the WCiMFH did recruit highly rated players to Michigan. '08 was a dual class with COACH Carr and I'll take your word on his other to classes being top 15. So what happened? Some of them couldn't get into school due to grades or failed to score high enough test scores. (OR a rap sheet longer than his HS transcript.) Then he ran off some of the better players, (I can't wait for the book/movie "Adversity in Ann Arbor", so we can get the skinny). He didn't get the level of assistants required at Michigan. He was unable or unwilling to change to correct glaring problems in defense and special teams which caused the fissure amoung the fan base to widen. Finally his inability to win games vs the top half of the BT in three years was the final nail. I hope this helps Trublu, and that we can get together behind COACH Hoke and the new Michigan Brain Trust. TiM Go Blue!
Joe
Tue, Feb 1, 2011 : 1:42 a.m.
I agree with those of you who have said that we need to get past the past and move on. To me when you really take a look at what the program went through over the past few months, what Mr Brandon and Coach Hoke has done over the past few weeks has been pretty cool. However, I think us true UM supporters need to keep a guarded optimism about ourselves. Keep in mind that everything to this point hasn't involved a single practise or game. Basically it has all been done "on paper" and at this point has nothing to do with how many wins and losses the team will have next year. We need to maintain the enthusium that has been built over the past few weeks, but let's keep our feet on the ground.
Blu-dogg97
Mon, Jan 31, 2011 : 4:26 p.m.
@ trueblue The past is the Past..and RR is the Past.. I'll get as Giddy as I please!! because we talking about Michigan Football today,tomorrow and the future with Hoke & co..they haven't played a game yet true!!,but I'll remain positive because the future will be Michigan football again... I have to question your reader name ?? "truebluefan" TiM & Go Blue...
truebluefan
Mon, Jan 31, 2011 : 3:54 p.m.
goblue & 1stdown -- Again with the shameless knocks on RR? It's getting old. Before we get all giddy with excitement on how much better Hoke is doing, remember that in 2008, Rich Rod salvaged Carr's recruits and closed extremely strong with the #8 class in the country per Rivals. After going 3-9 and 5-7, RR still managed top 15 classes in 2009 and 2010. My point is, I think it's way too early to come to the conclusion that Hoke is a better recruiter than RR. Or, that Hoke "has done more in 3 weeks than Rich Rod did in 3 years". Talk about drinking the Kool-Aid? Sheesh!
GoblueinNE_PA
Tue, Feb 1, 2011 : 2:58 a.m.
I love how the RichRod fan's are now trying to credit RichRod with the 2008 class. The same class that they've been denigrated for 3 years. Unbelievable.
Blu-dogg97
Mon, Jan 31, 2011 : 2:58 p.m.
Jim Naz.. I agree with you totally.. The past is past,and Hoke-A-Mania in Co. are doing a fine job,they moved up to 26th by Rivals over the weekend in recruiting,and theres more to come by NCD.. btw msu is 28th .. I suspect a few surprises by weds..How can you not be positive for the return of Michigan football the way we all know it.. TiM Go Blue
Jim Nazium
Mon, Jan 31, 2011 : 3:02 a.m.
See how quickly we get spoiled? I keep coming back here expecting to find more recruits since that's all I've seen lately, and love it! I've also seen a lot of volleying between die-hard RR'ers and anti- RR'ers, can't we all just get along? I know Sept.3rd is a long way off and there will be a lot more sparring until then, but let's just try to keep things in perspective. We have a New Coach, New Staff and New Commitments coming in, let's show our Michigan Pride and shower them with Positives. The Past is the Past, may the Future be Bright and Prosperous. Who cares who's right and who's wrong about previous coaching and what not. Quit missing out on Today and Tomorrow by Living in the Past. Great Job Coach Hoke and Staff, a few days to go to wrap up recruiting, may you bring home a few more winners and do us proud! We support you. Go Blue!!!
Blu-dogg97
Mon, Jan 31, 2011 : 2:54 p.m.
Jim Naz.. I agree with you totally.. The past is past,and Hoke-A-Mania in Co. are doing a fine job,they moved up to 26th by Rivals over the weekend in recruiting,and there more to come by NCD.. btw msu is 28th .. I suspect a few surprises by weds..How can you not be positive for the return of Michigan football the way we all know it.. TiM Go Blue
Bluewolverine
Mon, Jan 31, 2011 : 2:26 p.m.
Jim, I agree with you and I intend to remain positive from this point on and RR is in the past. Brady is a class guy and will be tough on these kids both on the field and the classroom. He will not let this program down. If you want a real positive feeling go to MGoblue.com and listen to the new staff interviews. I have listened to them more than once each. I am excited for this program now big time!
mgoblue48348
Mon, Jan 31, 2011 : 2:49 a.m.
If Holk can bring in Darien Cooper than I'll be impressed. Cris Bryant not to shabby, but bring in Cooper than I will say very good coach Holk.
RCTS
Mon, Jan 31, 2011 : 12:15 a.m.
Actually one of the few things that RR can't be fairly criticized for is a lack of success according to the recruiting sites. Rodriquez had a great recruitng year in 2008-- way better than Hoke can hope to end up with this year. Other than the fact that he hurt himself badly by running off Mallet and Boren, Rodriquez's lack of success is somewhat inexplicable.
GoblueinNE_PA
Tue, Feb 1, 2011 : 2:54 a.m.
You're kidding me right? You're giving RichRod credit for that 2008 class? Seriously? The class that every RichRod from Ann Arbor to hill billy village disavowed as a left over mess from Coach Carr? That class? I'm sorry, you guys can't keep rewriting history on a whim. Yes, that 2008 class was highly rated. In fact, it was Rich's best class. After that, everything got progressively worse, culminating in this class that Hoke is trying desparately to save.
RCTS
Mon, Jan 31, 2011 : 3:35 p.m.
Inexplicable in light of his recruiting success. He recruited one of the highest rated kickers in the country and numerous four star defensive players. I think we are making variations of the same point. It is incredible how bad the team played given its supposed talent level.
Blu n Tpa
Mon, Jan 31, 2011 : 1 p.m.
What? Please go back and watch the last 3 games of this season. Inexplicable? No "D" and no kicking game.
azwolverine
Sun, Jan 30, 2011 : 7:15 p.m.
On the most up to date Rivals rankings, UM has moved up to #27. I don't know why since we haven't added anyone since yesterday...maybe one of the teams in front of us lost a recruit...
Kelly Davenport
Sun, Jan 30, 2011 : 5:43 p.m.
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Blu n Tpa
Sun, Jan 30, 2011 : 4:02 p.m.
@ PN Lk Can you correct your mantra that it will take "3-5 years" to turn things around, just like rr needed. Don't you mean 4-5 years? The WCiMFH got 3 years, remember? Just thought you would want to be accurate. Glad to help.
Blu n Tpa
Sun, Jan 30, 2011 : 3:50 p.m.
The recruiter coordinator and recievers coach said it best in his interview, when asked if he could do much with the time left before NSD. "We have to do it. No excuses!" And now there's no need for any. Funny how that works. Besides the great "save" with DRob and his teammates, the kicker, Wile, was a Hoke recruit. As far a defensive players all of them were going to see a COACHING change no matter what. There was no way DB would have allowed the DC or position coaches to stay as they were. NO WAY! That would have led to those players questioning how they would fit in with the change. And, unless COACH Hoke was brought in to take over the "D", no Coach Hoke or Coach Mattison to get these young men to re-commit. This was one whale of an effort by the new Michigan Brain Trust. TiM Go Blue! (Where is the guy that told me I was drinking the Kool-aid when I foretold a Top 25 recruiting class right after BH's hiring PC?)
mdoggy
Sun, Jan 30, 2011 : 6:05 p.m.
Blu n tpa... Wanted to get back to ya on ur reply an question... When i was talkn about "being on the same page" i was talkn about the offense an i wasnt clear about that... But i did talk about the defense right after and i have to agree with most of you reply except the part about thinkn on defense... We as a defensive unit reacted alot more than we were thinkn... Alot of point were put up against us because we wernt thinkn first an were out of position alot an then had to jus react which led to touchdowns... In my mind u have to know how to apply your knowlege to be able to jus react... Go blue!
EightySeven
Sun, Jan 30, 2011 : 2:43 p.m.
I really like what the new staff has done w/their recruits. It is great to see them bring some kids in w/ size and frames that will allow them to become Big 10 players. That was a huge issue the past 3 years undersized players. Can I also make another note, have you noticed how Brady talks up the kids in the program? He knows he will have to use all bodies available to build this team. Another quick point has anyone heard what type of defense/offense they will run? My point being I'm sure these current coaches will adapt to personal and not force only what they know.
1bit
Sun, Jan 30, 2011 : 12:03 p.m.
mmppcc: Michigan is an iconic football program. Maybe you didn't know that?
Moosy Moose
Sun, Jan 30, 2011 : 4:51 a.m.
Football is a team sport. I don't believe Boise State has any recruiting class that has been in the top 20's yet they win year in and year out. A good coach, a good system are probably more important than individual talent. Of course it does not hurt to have the best recruits to start with.
BlueSince62
Sun, Jan 30, 2011 : 3:17 p.m.
Well said, Moose. Besides, Rivals is a pay per view site, drumming up news for money. We don't need D Hart we need D Fense. Also, I find it annoying that a few individual turn every thread negative and continue to whine about RR. They can't spell, can't punctuate properly, and can't seem to let go. Small wonder they don't understand football either. Go Blue, or go home!
mdoggy
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 11:59 p.m.
Is it jus me or are most of the recruits that we have from the scouting an staff of RR.... ? I ask because i havnt heard of many recruits that were of coach hokes... In my opinion coaches biggest recruit so far was gettn denard to stay at school.... Go blue!
GoblueinNE_PA
Sun, Jan 30, 2011 : 12:46 a.m.
Yes, RichRod offered a lot of these kids scholarships. He was the coach last year, after all. However, what Coach Hoke has done is actually got them to commit to Michigan, some thing that RichRod didn't do in many cases. Coach Hoke is turning out to be a strong closer.
1st Down
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 11:16 p.m.
Anyone remember how this class was very poorly rated, about number 30 under Rich Rod...and Rich Rod was being his typical excuse making self, complaining about how 'his job status was hurting recruiting'? Well HOKE has improved this class that Rich Rod was failing on...and he is doing it with "NO EXCUSES"...which is something that every one of his coaches have echoed in their interviews this week. This is the age of accountability....this is the age of Michigan. The past is over and the improvement in recruiting ranking due to the new regime working harder, is evident of that. Go Blue!
azwolverine
Sun, Jan 30, 2011 : 1:25 a.m.
Bam, bam, and bam! 3 great posts. No more excuses, this staff is just doing what it takes to get it done. It's the Michigan way.
missionbrazil
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 11:47 p.m.
It's hard to believe that BH has been on the job for only 17 days. He and the staff have done a great job in barely over 2 weeks; the class had slipped to between #40-#50 by the time BH took over... and we still have some other good prospects and a shot at a Top 20. If anyone had reasons to make excuses it would have been BH and his boys ... but they don't roll that way. Here's to the age of accountability at UM.
tulsatom
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 11:25 p.m.
1st Down: I think their reputations as players' coaches and straight shooters have helped the current staff plus their ties to the pros (especially in the case of Mattison). I think that recruits see themselves as having a chance to go to the next level under these guys.
lawrencelaundry
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 10:17 p.m.
With these huge linemen, just wait and see the holes they.open. D Hart is over rated in my opinion. Wait and see Thomas Rawls does, im betting he'll be running for the hiesman in a couple yrs. Some critics say he way underated and should be a top running back in the midwest. His size and speed indicate a mike Hart except faster. I hoping I'm right.
MikeB
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 10:11 p.m.
Rivals is a good way to track recruits. I think if we had more recruits our ranking would be even higher. All the top schools have 20 or more recruits measured against the 17 at Rivals. We might make 25th or more. Next year, if the defense plays well we can grab a couple of 5 star defensive recruits. They still have to play but things are looking up. A thanks to tireless work, great names (Yeah Mattison) and a school with a great reputation. Go Blue
missionbrazil
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 9:11 p.m.
Merriam-Webster - fan : an enthusiastic devotee Not too hard to see the 2 or 3 regular posters on this site who are not true UM fans, right Portage ?
mdoggy
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 8:34 p.m.
So true 1bit... Starting over is hard for any coach... Especially with a whole new offensive scheme..
mdoggy
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 8:31 p.m.
Dont get me wrong... Coach totally saved what could have been a total desaster recruiting wise... Im excieted as any UM fan for this year... I unfortunatly am one of the few that would have liked to have seen RR in his fourth year... All that talent, all on the same page... Who knows how good we could have been... Plus we had such a young defensive group that didnt always play with there heads... One thing any program needs to win is experience..... An im not sure you can coach that or recruit it... GO BLUE
Blu n Tpa
Sun, Jan 30, 2011 : 3:29 p.m.
mdoggy You don't sound like a dreamer, so out respect I would ask what page you feel the defense was on? Or the kicking game even being in the same book on football? Yes, be thrilled about how COACH Hoke and his staff's has successfully turned the corner on the recruiting front. You also have a point about experience. But good COACHING shortens the time from learning it to playing with confidence. There's an old saying on defense, if your thinking, you're lost. You should be reacting. That ALL about COACHING. TiM Go Blue!
1bit
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 8:28 p.m.
It will be quite a coup if Coach Hoke keeps players from transfering and keeps the recruiting class together (hopefully adding a couple more). While we lost some of Coach Rodriguez's commits, I like the re-emphasis placed on defense placed by the new staff. Although I supported keeping Coach Rodriguez, it is nice not to have a cloud over the program. In hindsight, I think what limited Coach Rodriguez was that he got off to a poor start with players transferring (and sometimes badmouthing the program), longtime coaches/assistants fired, the loss of Terrelle Pryor to OSU, the West Virginia lawsuit(s), etc. As Portage noted, it's a start and here's to a fresh start for everyone!
81wolverine
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 8:09 p.m.
I think the coaches have done an amazing job with pulling this class together given the very difficult circumstances. IMO, we'll probably finish up the class in the low 20's ranking-wise when all the smoke clears. That's not where we want to be long-term, but it avoids a bad recruiting class which would have set the program back. As it stands now, this class has an excellent kicker, very solid running back, a great group of linebackers, several very good defensive backs, a pair of very good offensive linemen, a good QB to provide depth, and some solid defensive ends. Let's hope we can land a good TE, another offensive tackle, a good DT (Cooper) and another back.
mdoggy
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 8:04 p.m.
Ur right portage... It is a start... I read a comment earlier that said that coach hoke has already done more for michigan than rich rod did in three years.... We lost some major recruits because of RR departure... D. Hart is jus one example....
Edward R Murrow's Ghost
Mon, Jan 31, 2011 : 2:59 a.m.
"we will never know now if RR would have turned us into a Narional powerhouse . . . Some wonder why I'm so pessimistic? I know these kids will turn on Brady after year 2 of big time losses and that is not even counting Alabama." Wow! That's some crystal ball you have. Unable to see the last three years for the disaster they were but able to see so clearly into the future that you KNOW 2012 is going to be a disaster and that the team is going to turn on Coach Hoke. Bizarre. Good Night and Good Luck
PortageLkBlu
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 10:18 p.m.
There are two trains of thought here, number 1 we will never know now if RR would have turned us into a Narional powerhouse(say what you want) and number 2 we don't know if Brady Hoke can turn us into a big 10 contender let alone handle Nebraska and Ohio State. As it stands right now we are far and away behind just those 2 let alone Michigan state and Iowa oh, and while we're at it let's throw Notre Dame in the mix. Brady needs just like RR did 3-5 yrs and I'm betting closer to 5. Some wonder why I'm so pessimistic? I know these kids will turn on Brady after year 2 of big time losses and that is not even counting Alabama.
azwolverine
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 8:15 p.m.
The problem with the old staff was that even if D. Hart had come, we would still have to rack up 50 points per game just to go 7-6. With the new staff, while it's always nice to have a D. Hart, they don't NEED him just to hang in games and win 50% of them because they will have a Defense. We can score less and win more. But my guess is that we will still score more under Hoke against the top teams like OSU then the 8 per game we averaged over the last 3 seasons...
PortageLkBlu
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 7:19 p.m.
It's a start!
tulsatom
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 6:37 p.m.
With a few exceptions, I think Rivals.Com is pretty reliable. From prior observation, they are probably right about 80% of the time with their projections. The 5-star guys usually (not always) turn out to be the stars of the team, with the 4-star guys being very productive also. Some 3-star guys become great players with good coaching and strength programs and a few of them turn into stars, but for the most part Rivals does a pretty good job of judging talent. If the 3-star guy is already getting the most out of his talent, he won't be as good as a 5-star guy in the same situation. What I don't understand is how teams like Notre Dame keep having Top Ten recruiting classes but seem to underachieve on the field. I assume it has been poor coaching but I don't know for sure. Their current coach seems to know his stuff.
PortageLkBlu
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 7:22 p.m.
Oh ya, we gotta play Notre Dame to gee wiz, good luck Brady Hoke?
Terry Star21
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 6:22 p.m.
@ Bevington...Alabama leads off our schedule in 2012...early critics are calling our 2012 schedule a Top 10 National.....Alabama, Air Force, Notre Dame, Purdue, Illinois, michigan state, Nebraska, Minnesota, Northwestern, Iowa and ohio state. Look for us to win many games with dignity and although we may lose - it will also be with dignity...new this season with the Incredible Hoke !
PortageLkBlu
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 10:08 p.m.
Wow, all that philosophy and we haven't played a game under this New coach, he must be good.
azwolverine
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 8:10 p.m.
Terry, I like the new helmet. Michigan may struggle both this year and next in terms of wins and losses (tough schedules, rebuilding to be done), but I think they will be very competitive and start closing the gap considerably on the top teams in the B10. Gone will be the days of 30-35 point losses to OSU and and 38 point bowl debacles. This team will be tough both mentally and physically and won't crumble when things get tough.
PortageLkBlu
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 7:26 p.m.
Terry, ya always have dignity when ya win. Your not going to find much dignity in losing with this bunch of boys and girls, sorry!
tulsatom
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 6:20 p.m.
I think Hoke and his staff have done very well under the circumstances and would like to have seen what they could've accomplished with a couple of full months of recruiting. Next year, hopefully U-M will go back to the Top Ten or where they used to be every year.
Blu-dogg97
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 5:32 p.m.
After viewing video of Rawls,he sure looks like a strong RB,and seems to run north and south..looks like a tuff runner..I know he's on Campus this weekend,does anyone know his history? Doesn't he have a connection with Fred Jackson?? appreciate some insight !! Go Blue..
Josh
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 7:40 p.m.
I can help you Blu, Coach Jackson's son Fred Jr. coaches football at Flint Northern, which is where Rawls attends school. This is how he has been noticed by the Michigan coaches.
Blu-dogg97
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 5:13 p.m.
It sure is great to be a Blue fan..after 3 yrs of pain,and misery!! I have complete confidence in Hoke & staff,they will coach up the players to fit their talent in their system,versus driving the system down their throat..square peg,round hole theory..I believe come Feb2nd,Blue will be in the top 20,can't wait for the spring game.. Your right AZWolverine we are moving on up.. TiM & Go Blue...
PortageLkBlu
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 7:29 p.m.
Ya, the skys the limit why pretty soon they'll bump us up to the professional football cause we're just to darn good for college. This is going to be a long hard struggle just to compete in our division, stay realistic and focused boys and girls.
goblue
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 5:11 p.m.
Hoke has already done more in 3 wks than Rich Rod did in 3 yrs,,,,,Things are looking up. GO BLUE
PortageLkBlu
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 7:35 p.m.
You bet, he's got you convinced must mean something. Look the guy is trying hard and doing okay at best, this struggle is going to be 3-5 yrs. I'll simplify it for you, look at this years schedule Bradys first year, now look at 2012 and where those games are played and who we're playing. Got it? Be patient this is uphill for at least 3 more years probably 4-5.
Blu-dogg97
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 5:14 p.m.
second that motion !!
azwolverine
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 4:53 p.m.
Reminds me of the theme song from that old TV show 'The Jeffersons'...We're Moving on Up!
mdoggy
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 9:54 p.m.
Wanted to get back to ya on what you had replyed... Your absolutly right on the fact that we can win more with less points... An we definately need to do that against osu or mich state... Defense will help our cause in those big rivalry games... But none of us have even seen what coach or his staff can do yet.. An unfortunatley rarley does a progam turn around in one year... The up side is we were almost last in total defense last year so being a betr defensive team will be an easier task especially since we have alot of players with more expierence this year...go blue
Bevington
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 4:32 p.m.
When do we play Alabama at Cowboy Stadium?
azwolverine
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 11:05 p.m.
Hey 81, that's not nearly as far from Phx as A2 is, so I'm going to try to get there myself. It should be a fun game, especially with the team having a year in under the new staff, and with Denard as a senior. By the way, portage, you're telling people to hold off on predictions until we see Hoke coach...so why don't you follow your own advice...
81wolverine
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 8:10 p.m.
I believe it's Sat. Sept. 1st 2012. I'll be there for sure - Go Blue!
PortageLkBlu
Sat, Jan 29, 2011 : 7:38 p.m.
Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, hold your horses coyboy, we've got enough brutal games before that scary Custer's last stand.