Posted on Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 1:31 p.m.
Polls show Santorum leading Romney in Michigan
By Cindy Heflin
Two polls suggest Mitt Romney, long considered the favorite to win Michigan’s Republican presidential primary, could be in trouble.
Rick Santorum.
AP photo
Also, the survey firm Public Policy Polling showed Santorum leading Romney 39 percent to 24 percent. But it noted that only 47 percent of likely Santorum voters said they were strongly committed to their candidate.
The poll also found little home state advantage for Romney. Only 26 percent of likely primary voters actually consider him to be a Michigander while 62 percent do not, it found.
Public Policy Polling said its survey of 404 likely GOP primary voters had a margin of error of plus or minus 4.9 percentage points.
Michigan's Republican presidential primary is Feb. 28.
Comments
xmo
Fri, Feb 17, 2012 : 8:51 p.m.
I am voting for President Obama! He's lost 6 million Jobs, weaken our Defense, drove up our debt by 10 Trillion Dollars and feels that the constitution is something that he needs to get rid of!
jj45678
Wed, Feb 15, 2012 : 3:43 a.m.
Maybe Romey losing in Michigan has something to do with his NY times editorial in 2008 entitled "Let Detroit go bankrupt". <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19romney.html" rel='nofollow'>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19romney.html</a> Ya think?
Chicagobob
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 7:20 p.m.
The Republican debates have highlighted the fact that this year's crop of Republican candidates is as bad as, if not worse than G.W. Bush. They best that can said of most of them is that they are shallow and are hence willing to follow the dictates of even more shallow talk radio hosts. What we are seeing is the herd instinct at its best (or worst?) and they are going to run the party off a cliff. William Buckley, a true Republican intellectual, must be turning over in his grave. Although I seldom agreed with him, I always appreciated his ability to make well-reasoned, civil and thoughtful arguments for his views. The G.O.P., for some inexplicable reason, has chosen to facilitate it's own destruction in the presidential race this year. I hope this will give President Obama a further chance to clean up the unbelievable mess left by GWB in just about every facet of American life and get America back on track.
leaguebus
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 5:13 a.m.
Interesting to note that while Santorum, Romney, and the rest of the hopefuls cozy up to CPAC, one of the CPAC panels on multiculturalism had a speech by Peter Brimelow, a racial nationalist (not quite a white supremacist) who believes that this country has been white dominated and should stay that way. He gave a talk on "The Failure of Multiculturalism: How the pursuit of diversity is weakening the American Identity." He also does not like multilingualism. Good guy for the Republican candidates to by socializing with.
MH
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 3:49 a.m.
Santorum's on top of Romney? I sort of pictured it the other way around.
Jon Saalberg
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 3:32 a.m.
This is what Romney gets for trying to win over the right-wing. And he is most assuredly handing the election to the President. There is no way a radically right-wing candidate can win over the majority of American who are not radically right-wing, and Romney is just providing the Democratic party with tons of ammunition for the fall ad campaign - "I was for gay rights before I was against them." "I was for a woman's right to choose before I was against it." "I was for universal health care before I was against it, even though I created the model for it." Even more absurd - "I know what it's like to fear a pink slip." This from the son of a multi-millionaire. Really, Romney is a riot. And the alternatives? The serial philanderer. Or the man who wants to create a Christian version of Afghanistan. Or a guy who thinks if people who don't have health care die, well that's their problem. And I thought 2008 was a surreal presidential election.
Tex Treeder
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 12:32 a.m.
I don't understand why there's this constant reference to Michigan somehow being Romney's home state. I know his father used to be governor here, but Romney Jr. was governor of Massachusetts. Shouldn't that make Massachusetts his home state? My father used to work in Columbus. That doesn't make me a Buckeye. Thank goodness.
Tex Treeder
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 2:49 a.m.
As another former governor pointed out, you can't choose where you're born, but you can choose where you live. Romney has chosen to live elsewhere, so he shouldn't be considered a Michigander anymore. Q.E.D.
justcurious
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 2:07 a.m.
He did grow up in a rich Detroit suburb and was educated at the best private schools. He chose to leave the state and pursue business interests elsewhere rather than "helping" the Detroit auto industry.
Halter
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 11:40 p.m.
Here's the thing -- no matter who wins the primaries, Mitt Romney is the only viable candidate the GOP has for a winning election vs Obama -- Santorum is just plain old too right wing. While Michigan Republicans will definitely vote for Santorum in the primary to show their conservative side, the reality is, ultimately, we'll be voting for Mitt Romney in the general election this fall -- Mitt is the only viable electable candidate for the GOP this year. My personal observation?....People vote for who they think is most handsome 90 percent of the time over whom they actually most agree with...
shutthefrtdoor
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 3:52 p.m.
If that's all they have...then it's time to retreat!
justcurious
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 2:09 a.m.
agreed.
catfishrisin
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 11:17 p.m.
People seem to want to return to the "good old days" of the 12th century.
bedrog
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 11:49 p.m.
a fine century indeed...with the 4th crusade and cathar wars ( both actually just over the border into the 13th cent) being the medieval version of the " christian fanatic against other christian fanatic" scene that is the 21st century's republican primary. in the late 12th though was the monumental defeat of the jerusalem crusader kingdom at the hands of salah ud din's muslims at hattin...something we've not quite faced in our middle east ventures ...yet! and hopefully won't given the various but still' stand firm ' attitudes of both party's candidates ( except delusional ron paul).
David Cahill
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 11:08 p.m.
The demolition derby is beginning. 8-)
hut hut
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 5:59 p.m.
that 4.7 trillion is just about how much Bush spent on two wars that were off the budget book.
justcurious
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 2:05 a.m.
Here is your candidate: <a href="http://factcheck.org/2012/02/dueling-debt-deceptions/" rel='nofollow'>http://factcheck.org/2012/02/dueling-debt-deceptions/</a> Q: How much has the federal debt gone up under Obama? A: During his first three years in office, it rose $4.7 trillion, an increase of 45 percent. Partisan graphics circulating via email and Facebook are both incorrect.
recordhound
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 10:54 p.m.
Michigan has an open primary. Any Democrat or independent voter should do as I plan to, go out to the Republican primary and vote for Rick. Derail Romney and give Obama an easy run against a wacko like Santorum.
shutthefrtdoor
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 3:49 p.m.
Yeah Halter...especially since Mitt laid the ground work for the Presidents health care plan. The last time I checked...so called conservatives HATE that program. I'm interested how that plan is gonna work for ya! 4 more years!
Halter
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 11:42 p.m.
Good luck -- it makes zero percent difference who Michigan votes for in the primary -- ultimately, Romney will be the presidential candidate -- he is the only electable candidate we have this year...and that will trump the people's choice....and people will vote for Romney in droves to beat Obama..... As to the primary, you can go do whatever you want -- it doesn't matter.
justcurious
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 11:12 p.m.
Good luck with that plan.
robert bowman
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 10:33 p.m.
The GOP is about to grasp defeat from the certain jaws of victory. Romney is the only candidate who can win the support of independents. Santorum's evangelical following may excite a few Republicans but will never have enough support to win. There are not enough registered aliens in outer space to elect Newt or Ron Paul. We need someone with executive and business experience to fix the mess our country is in. The true conservative and our only hope to unseat Obama, which is our ultimate goal is Mitt. Here's an example of his 'take charge' leadership and integrity: <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/search.asp" rel='nofollow'>http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/search.asp</a> If beating Obama isn't enough to excite the base, then prepare to hand him 4 more years.
justcurious
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 2:04 a.m.
So Halter, what does your comment have to do with Romney and independents? I might pick Obama over Romney as an independent myself, though I would really have to think hard and long about it.
Halter
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 11:45 p.m.
Very wrong -- he's the "same old thing" who happens to be a REpublican, not a Democrat -- and to that end, Romney will have full support of the REpublican voting pool....it's not going to be who is the best/most different candidate -- it's going to be who is most electable. The primary in Michigan makes zero difference. You'll find that Republicans voting to get Obama out of office will be much stronger than Obama supporters trying to keep him in office...
justcurious
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 11:11 p.m.
"Romney is the only candidate who can win the support of independents." Are you kidding us? Independents won't vote for a pretty face who made sure that Americans lost their jobs and deserted his home state. He would be more of the same old thing...no change at all.
discgolfgeek
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 10:23 p.m.
Ron Paul gets this indepedent's vote. I don't like Santorum at all and love the Goldwater quote posted by Ann Gegan. If Santorum wins the nomination, Obama is an easy choice for me.
Louhi
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 12:09 a.m.
I feel ya! Independent's Unite!
newsboy
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 10:10 p.m.
This one's easy; pols are generally Catholic.
shutthefrtdoor
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 7:36 p.m.
Oh lord...one could really read into this one...LOL
Louhi
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 12:07 a.m.
Hahahaha!
bedrog
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 10 p.m.
re these polls and their accuracy : i have to admit that i have been 'robocalled" on numerous occasions by a clearly right wing Obama hating "polling' company" offering a "free trip to the bahamas" ( itself a scam) if i answer some badly loaded 'are you still beating your wife' kind of questions. when asked candidate preference i press the "santorum" button on the phone ( which is actually true since i'd love him to be obama's opponant...the better to insure a blow out democratic victory in nov.).
shutthefrtdoor
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 7:35 p.m.
That's funny...I got the same call. I told them I was voting for President Obama and hung up before they could hang up on me! I wouldn't have accepted the "free trip" anyway...then the GOP would say THAT was an entitlement...LOL
bedrog
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 11:41 p.m.
just curious: that'd be fine. He's really alot more centrist ( i.e. sane ) than he's pretending to be, and although he doesn't win many points for honesty he's not actually a madman like his republican rivals.
justcurious
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 11:08 p.m.
Don't get your hopes up, Romney will have the nomination undoubtably.
Mike
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 9:39 p.m.
Choices: 1. re-elect Obama who can't put together a budget, has spent more than all of the US prsidents combined, has squandered money on failed green energy intiatives, is still learning on the job, has catually increased our troops oversea, did not close Guantanimo, shut down the oil pipeline from Canada, loaned billions to other countries to drill for oil which they will sell to China, allows China and other third world countries to run roughshod over us and steal our technology, has not closed the borders, wants to grant US citizenship to illegals at the expense of US citizens, continue down the road to being like Greece. 2. try someone with a different philosophy about governing, someone who will reduce governemnt spending, allow us to exploit our natural resourses, even the playing field with foreign competitors, close a number of bases overseas, quit spending our hard earned tax dollars on political pandering, cut off financial aid to ther countries that we borrow to give to them, close the borders and actually control immigration like it is supposed to be, fire all of the "czars" he has hired. Is this really such a tough decision or do we have to get into a situation where the US is like Detroit or Greece. If we don't get our fiscal house in order it won't matter if you're pro this or pro that we're goining to have a lot bigger probelms to deal with from the civil unrest that will be caused by this inexperienced, experiment we elected...........
shutthefrtdoor
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 3:44 p.m.
This sounds like Fox News to me. I think there are other sources that might shed a different light on the record as it stands.
Enso
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 1:35 p.m.
"re-elect Obama who can't put together a budget." opinion. "has spent more than all of the US prsidents combined." Not true. "has squandered money on failed green energy intiatives." yeah, a company went out of business. it's capitalism, it happens. "is still learning on the job." how do you practice being president? I'm too tired to do the rest, but you get the point. Inaccuracy makes you look silly.
Sparty
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 4:20 a.m.
Except GWB spent more on his two wars, $5 trillion Dollars worth, he tripled aid to Africa, he implemented Medicare Part D, etc. - all unfunded. Obama has had to raise the debt ceiling to pay for Bush's unfunded debts, and the ongoing cots and interest, making him one of largest causes of increased debt in our history.
michaelam
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 9:37 p.m.
As a life long Democrat, I am so hoping that Santorum wins Michigan. But more importantly, Willard scroood you guys with his comments about the Auto Industry. I seriously hope he loses his "home state" because he does NOT deserve to win it!
shutthefrtdoor
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 3:41 p.m.
Halter...I think President Obama will SMOKE any one of the GOP stooges. They can't even agree on a strategy to defeat him.
Halter
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 11:47 p.m.
Correct -- that is why it doesn't matter who Michigan folks vote for in this primary -- at the convention, Romney will get the nod, and Romney will win, even if plenty of people won't support him. It's really going to boil down to Republicans vs Democrats again, and in those situations, the Republicans always win.
robert bowman
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 10:36 p.m.
I hope all you registered Republicans read this. Because this is exactly what Obama wants. Anyone but Romney, we wins in a landslide.
Ron Granger
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 9:20 p.m.
I like Santorum's spirit. It's so frothy.
shutthefrtdoor
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 3:39 p.m.
Sorry Joe... When I think catholic...I think of the crusades.
Joe Hood
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 2:49 a.m.
@bedrog: Interesting that you equate Catholics as extremist; Obama seems to do the same. The fight for the First Amendment and the Constitution is going to be a tough one this year. I'm going to vote for the Constitution, thank you very much!
bedrog
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 9:30 p.m.
re frothy: while he might be good ingredient in a milkshake ( although i doubt it) he's be a horror as president. if this extremist -religious kook is elected we could just call the U.S. "iran west" ( since , re. milkshakes, it'd be same drink-different flavor).
David Cahill
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 8:50 p.m.
As a Dem, I absolutely love the chaos now descending on the Michigan Republicans. And imagine what will happen if Santorum actually wins! Muahahahaaaa! The time between now and February 28 should provide a lot of fun spectator sport.
shutthefrtdoor
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 3:37 p.m.
metrichead...I would agree with you if the GOP had solid candidates that weren't ripping each other to shreds. In my opinion...a prolonged campaign will only lend help to President Obama while the economy continues to improve. That being said...the GOP money will continue to see pressure after being poured into this quite copiously.
metrichead
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 3:20 a.m.
That's stupid to want that. A protracted primary helps the party out of power. It works like a very long campaign ad. If this thing were to go to the convention, imagine how tough it will be for Obama to defend Democratic-leaning states that aren't necessarily bell weathers. This very same "chaos" occurred while McCain wrapped up the GOP nomination four years ago. It forced candidate Obama to establish infrastructures in states like Indiana and North Carolina - states that flipped to him in the general. I'm a firm believer that the economy matters more than the actual campaign, but in places where it's close, the campaign matters just as much.
shutthefrtdoor
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 9:18 p.m.
You hit it right on the head David! I'm buying pop-corn in bulk for this episode!
justcurious
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 8:59 p.m.
Yeah, I guess you forgot your parties circuses of the recent past. Problem is your man didn't live up to his promises and a lot of us are defecting...
Another Michael
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 8:37 p.m.
Assuming the economy continues to trend upward, Republicans won't take back the White House this cycle anyway. Nominating a maniacal theocrat would merely ensure more down-ticket losses nationwide.
hut hut
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 8:20 p.m.
Santorum is making this a very fluid and messy race.
Roaring_Chicken
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 8:10 p.m.
Fabulous! He's our man! If you read the story today about how many people need low-income housing, you'll realize -- as Mr. Santorum does -- that it's not enough to prevent same-sex couples from spending YOUR TAX MONEY on health care benefits in Michigan -- or anywhere. On the contrary, I foresee the moment when, if you want a "hand out," you'd better have TWO parents for those kids you have. WHY should hard-working Americans squander money on single parents? Rick will help us stop supporting lifestyles that are "counterproductive" and "valueless" to society. This Chicken ROARS for Rick!!!
Sparty
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 7:23 p.m.
NO, I do not support earmarks by any Congressperson. I support publicly voted on legislation not earmarks that are hidden from public view. I do not support the State determining what preventative health care procedures or prescriptions should be provided to men or women, whether it is anti-abortion or any other procedure on a religious or "moral" basis. Religion belongs in a place of worship or home, alone and nowhere else.
Sparty
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 7:15 p.m.
Yes, Santorum is against same-sex marriage, civil unions, domestic partnerships, equalized taxes for same-sex couples (health care premiums, marriage deductions, estate taxes, etc. etc.), just to name a few. Thus, anti-gay. He also doesn't support full funding for needle-exchange programs for HIV programs, Ryan White Program Funding, ADAP funding, Medicaid Funding, elimination of pre-existing condition barriers to health care coverage, Global HIV Funding, to name a few more.
Diagenes
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 2:10 p.m.
Sparty, just because Sen. Santorum believes marriage is a compact between a man and a woman, does that mean he is anti-gay? Can you site a comment where he made anti-gay remarks? He is pro life, but I never heard him say he would like to deny people the use of birth control. He does believe that the government cannot mandate that Catholic institutions be forced to pay for it or offer it to its employees. Thats pro catholic not anti birth control. Do you oppose the free expression of religious beliefs? That would not be very liberal of you. Sen. Santorum is not a hypocrit on ear marks. If that is what you are implying. He has never to my knowledge spoken against the practice. I am sure you support earmarks when its done by Rep. Dingel for a bridge in A2 or a bus station.
Sparty
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 9:32 p.m.
Chiken, same-sex couples also pay taxes ... and have equal rights under the Constitution, as do widows, widowers, and all sorts of other single parents. Santorum and his anti-abortion, anti-birth control, anti-gay, but pro-earmark spending inclinations will never be President as he is far too dangerous on multiple fronts. And as others have noted, chickens not only get plucked, they also get eaten.
bedrog
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 9:26 p.m.
chicken :as long as the human voters don't that's fine. at the end of the day chickens get eaten.
hut hut
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 7:36 p.m.
I love watching Republicans stab each other in the back. Whoever in the Republican National Committee thought that 19+ debates would help their cause has a hole in their head. All it did was make them look like a bunch of half baked wannabe's trying to out-conservative each other.
shutthefrtdoor
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 7:17 p.m.
hut hut...man I wish I could vote for your post TWICE!!! SaWeet!
jeanarrett
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 4:49 p.m.
All it did was produce the committee to re-elect President Obama.
justcurious
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 8:54 p.m.
Except for one.
Roadman
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 7:23 p.m.
Rick Santorum is candidate who holds truly conservative positions on abortion and gun ownership. He has no "baggage" as far as ethical violations as Newt Gingrich does. He may be sympathetic to voters due to prior tragedies involving his children. He is neither tremendously wealthy nor does he hail from a prominent family as Mitt Romney does. He is articulate, young and intelligent - holding multiple graduate degrees. He has the inside track on the nomination.
Sparty
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 4:09 a.m.
Nobody is polling better than Obama currently, fortunately.
Joe Hood
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 2:45 a.m.
@Halter: Santorum is polling better than Obama at this point.
Halter
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 11:51 p.m.
He has the inside track on the nomination. --- HUH????? No, he doesn't. No matter who mins Michigan, Romney will get the nomination because of his electability potential vs any other Rep candidate...and that is what it will all be about this year, not who is the best candidate, but who can beat Obama. Romney wins. There is almost unanimous consensus on that....
bedrog
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 9:42 p.m.
just curious: are you asking 'roadman' for an honest or consistent answer?? Do you also believe in the tooth fairy??. in any case it'd be a toss up as to whether paul or santorum would be the greater catastrophe. If the first we'd be annexed by iran ( given his isolationism). If the 2nd we'd become a christian version of iran. Happily the actual answer come election day will be 'neither of the above".
Philip Santini
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 9:23 p.m.
This is the same goofball that as an incumbent senator (PA) lost reelection by over 16% points..
justcurious
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 8:54 p.m.
...and he wants us back in Iraq, and Iran, and Syria. He wants us to devote trillions more to undeclared wars. That's alright with you?
Forever27
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 8:10 p.m.
you forgot to mention that his name is a double entendre
Technojunkie
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 7:23 p.m.
Great, another W-style big-government "conservative" but with more emphasis on social issues. Are you kidding me? I'm voting for Ron Paul, at worst as a protest against the clowns running the RNC who've given us such a lousy selection of candidates. If government can't do anything right I might as well vote for the guy that will give us the least of it. And the sad thing is that whoever wins the Republican nomination is still going to be a less bad option than Obama. That takes effort. We're doomed.
shutthefrtdoor
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 7:14 p.m.
C'mon technojunkie! President Bush has left the building! If President Obama had shelled out money to Wall Street...he would have made them pay it back!
justcurious
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 8:52 p.m.
As Michael Moore said, he was trying to figure out who wall street had in their pocket and then it dawned on him. They've got their man in the White House now. Obama's biggest contributor is Goldman Sachs. He promised to get us out of these wars and we believed him...it's a sad election year imho.
Technojunkie
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 8:30 p.m.
I'm guessing that if Romney doesn't get the nomination then Wall Street will go running back to Obama full force and drag him across the finish line. So, yeah, we're doomed.
hut hut
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 8:06 p.m.
I guess Obama and HIS military (part of the government) couldn't do anything right by getting Bin Laden. And none of them can beat President Obama. Why would we want any of them, all losers in the McCain mold.
shutthefrtdoor
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 7:28 p.m.
Yep! ...and none of them can beat President Obama.
shutthefrtdoor
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 7:09 p.m.
Anybody that thought "Mitt" could win Michigan obviously didn't take into account his stance on the "American Auto Loans". He turned his back on us and he will not win in Michigan.
shutthefrtdoor
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 7:12 p.m.
Thanks League! You my friend are absolutely correct!
leaguebus
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 4:41 a.m.
Boy Marshall, talk about revisionist! The auto companies are still in business and they built a million more cars this year than last. They are hiring and have great products. Mitt wanted to let them go down the drain. He has said it many times when things were not going so well with the companies.
Marshall Applewhite
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 11:26 p.m.
I suggest that you go back and read his OP Ed in the WSJ. What has happened in the auto bailouts is basically what happened, with the exception of the source of funding.
justcurious
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 7:05 p.m.
Santorum wants us back in Iraq according to what he said in one of the so-called debates. This man is very dangerous. Hard to believe that people would want more war. Only Ron Paul seems to be a logical choice imo. Unfortunately everyone wants to be sheep and blindly follow the media's mandate that there is no way he could win.
Jojo B
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 8:25 p.m.
I love how so many people throw around the "blind sheep" comments. Justcurious, I think for myself and evaluate what the media presents to me. And no, I don't want Ron Paul as my president. Just because the media thinks he can't win doesn't mean it's not true.
Forever27
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 8:09 p.m.
while paul is correct in that we should consider the cost/benefit before going to war (beyond how much it will COST taxpayers and BENEFIT the militarists), much of his platform is highly uninformed, and downright dangerous. Anyone who wants to wholesale cut out the EPA and Department of Education should be nowhere near the White House.
Donald Martin
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 7:03 p.m.
Michigan is turning into Michissippi so of course Santorum will do well here.
Ann Gegan
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 6:57 p.m.
Quote from Barry Goldwater: "Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them." And a quote of Santorum's: "One of the criticisms I make is to what I refer to as more of a Libertarianish right. They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes down, keep our regulations low, and that we shouldn't get involved in the bedroom, we shouldn't get involved in cultural issues. That is not how traditional conservatives view the world." Obviously, Santorum does not understand traditional conservatism.
leaguebus
Tue, Feb 14, 2012 : 4:36 a.m.
Good quote from Goldwater. He was right on the mark. As we can see from the legislatures in Washington, compromise is not an option, even if it derails the economy. But, if they derail the economy, they win the Presidency, so its win win for the Republicans unless the jobless decide to vote for jobs from the Democrats
Forever27
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 8:07 p.m.
there are a lot of things that santorum doesn't understand.
dotdash
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 6:51 p.m.
Wow! It's a brave new world. We have, effectively, three parties now: the Dems, the moderate Republicans, and the far right. It's like a game of rock-paper-scissors. Moderate Republicans beat Dems, right-wing Republicans beat moderate Republicans, Dems beat right-wing Republicans. Who're you going to chose, Michigan? Paper or scissors?
Jojo B
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 7:11 p.m.
Excellent analogy. If you're a Democrat, you should route for Santorum to win the primary. That should make for an over-the-top general election filled with hyperbole.
smokeblwr
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 6:45 p.m.
The" Mitt"en State is going to be overrun by the Santorum Surge! Romney better handle this carefully.
smokeblwr
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 9:09 p.m.
That is what I'm told as well.
Forever27
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 8:06 p.m.
sounds messy