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Posted on Tue, Apr 17, 2012 : 5:57 a.m.

Egos aside: Willow Run, Ypsilanti to take on 'painstaking' task of planning possible merger

By Danielle Arndt

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Concerned resident and past janitor at Ypsilanti Public Schools Richard McCray passionately addresses the Ypsilanti-Willow Run boards of education about fixing the disciplinary problems at the schools. His statements triggered audience applause.

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Heartfelt and emotional comments, then questions about timeline, process, leadership, curriculum and more surfaced at the joint Willow Run and Ypsilanti public schools meeting Monday.

The two boards of education convened to set the direction on a possible merger.

The boards voted 12-2 in favor of moving forward with a consolidation ballot proposal, allowing residents to decide whether the neighboring schools should combine to form a single district.

The question of consolidation would be brought before voters “only after there has been established a clear and detailed plan for the development and implementation of a unified education system,” according to the resolution.

Willow Run trustee Dorothy Stewart moved to amend the resolution to specify that the two boards, in collaboration with the two communities, would develop the plan.

Willow Run trustees Brenda Meadows and Bobby Stevens opposed the resolution. Meadows declined to comment on her opposition. For Stevens, it was a matter of too many unanswered questions, he said.

“I’ve lived in the district since 1953. I’m a 1970 grad. … I just don’t know we thought enough about it,” he said of the merger. “I’m not saying I might not vote for (the consolidation). I’m just saying I had to vote my conscience tonight, and tonight I guess my conscience is too uncertain.”

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Floyd Brumfield, who served 17 years on the Ypsilanti Board of Education, pledged his support for the consolidation at Monday's meeting.

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Board presidents reminded the nearly 120 audience members that the resolution does not authorize consolidation, it only allows the planning to begin.

The districts will start by recruiting volunteers to lead subcommittees of internal and external stakeholders to divide and conquer the intricate details of the potential merger, said Ypsilanti Superintendent Dedrick Martin.

Willow Run Superintendent Laura Lisiscki said the tasks before them will be “painstaking.” It will require working backward from where the districts hope to be, to where they are now. And it will call for “long, endless hours,” she said.

“But we are going to do it because we know what’s best for our students.”

E. L. Weathers, a resident and 1958 graduate of Ypsilanti High School, said what several audience members later echoed: trustees serving more than 10 years on either school board should consider stepping down.

“Both systems didn’t get in this condition overnight,” Weathers said, referring to Ypsilanti and Willow Run’s individual financial deficits. “If both boards drove the bus into the ditch, I don’t think once they’ve put their glasses on … they gonna be able to drive it out.”

Laveda Weathers, his wife, added the only way to wipe the slate clean is to have new leaders on the board.

Ypsilanti board president David Bates said if the merger occurs, by law, the Washtenaw Intermediate School District must appoint a seven-member board to serve the newly formed district until an election can take place.

Discipline, truancy and reputation concerns also were brought up repeatedly during the public comment portion, in which about 15 people spoke. No one expressed adamant opposition to the idea of consolidating. About half expressed interest in it. However, nearly all who spoke had at least one question or caution.

The boards did not address any questions during the meeting. WISD Superintendent Scott Menzel said a frequently asked question list with responses will be compiled as soon as possible for both districts’ websites.

Christine Gelletly said she personally has watched children “hemorrhage” out of Ypsilanti Public Schools. Of the classmates her child attended kindergarten with, about 70 percent of them no longer attend the district, she said.

“What I would really like to see as part of the plan is what is the vision to keep families in the district? What is it that we’re offering? How are we marketing ourselves so that the perception of our district becomes much more positive and competitive to the schools around us?”

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Willow Run board president and alumnus Don Garrett, second from left, talks to local residents at Monday's joint meeting about his former attitude toward Ypsilanti.

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Richard McCray said the reason children leave Willow Run and Ypsilanti schools as they advance into the higher grades is because of disciplinary problems.

“It’ll be worse, I believe, when you consolidate and you say you got all these bad kids together,” he said. “Until we get the discipline under control, you can consolidate all you want; it won’t matter.”

The public has expressed concerns in the past about increased fighting and animosity at the schools, should the merger take place, especially considering there is a perceived rivalry between Willow Run and Ypsilanti.

Willow Run board president Don Garrett, a 1990 alumnus of the district, said: “If anybody knows me, I wasn’t a Ypsi fan. I wouldn’t wear purple and gold because I was red and white.

“But when I got on this board … and you get in the position we’re in and you look down and see the bigger picture, that ego will leave.”

He told AnnArbor.com after the meeting, the older generations are worse about the rivalry than kids today. He said he has spoken with a number of students about merging and the children “don’t seem to care.”

Stevens said he expects, if the consolidation passes, for there to be some additional animosity at the high school level at first.

“But think about the kids coming up behind them,” he said. “They’re all just going to be students. So I think it’ll work itself out.”

Additionally, McCray asked who would end up owning the property in the individual districts after the merger. He said this concerns him because taxpayers in Willow Run and Ypsilanti have been paying for upgrades and improvements on these properties for years as the districts have passed various millages.

One audience member suggested the first step the boards should take would be to better define who the stakeholders are in the merger. He said because when teens skip school, they often get in trouble with the law; so Ypsilanti Township officials, the city, the Washtenaw County Sheriff’s Department and the police department should be consulted throughout the planning process as well.

Ypsilanti Trustee Linda Snedacar-Horne reassured meeting attendees that the community's voice is crucial to the process. She said the merger would be an opportunity to create a world-class school district.

Rep. David Rutledge, D-Superior Township, also attended the meeting. He praised school leaders for their efforts and bravery and promised his help if the time came to consolidate.

Watch a video of Monday's meeting here, courtesy of YTownCan blog.

Staff reporter Danielle Arndt covers K-12 education for AnnArbor.com. Follow her on Twitter @DanielleArndt or email her at daniellearndt@annarbor.com.

Comments

allergictobs

Sun, Apr 22, 2012 : 12:05 p.m.

After my kids finished Estabrook, which is one of the best elementary schools in SE Michigan btw, we watched in amazement the "white flight" to Dexter, Saline and Ann Arbor. Let's call it what it is, no sense candy coating it. The families that stayed and parents who stayed involved have produced some of the finest young people on the planet going to top universities and achieving at very high levels. Ypsilanti School District is real world and one of the best kept secrets in the State. Can't speak to WR. I'll put the best to graduate from Ypsi up against the best from any other school district in the State. If a student does not have parent involvement and accountability then the school district doesn't matter. It amuses me how so many of the students of the families that were part of the"white flight" ended up in rehab, psych centers and jail.

UlyssesWrong1

Thu, Apr 19, 2012 : 11:05 a.m.

Great idea to pull your kids from Willow Run and Ypsilanti schools. As if they didn't have enough problems, you guys effectively are killing your own communities by not investing in them with one of the greatest resources possible, PEOPLE! I'd hate to see what it would be like if every parent had the money to afford alternative schooling for their children, public school systems going through turmoil would surely collapse. Yeah in fact that does remind me of DPS, like someone here said. Oh Count Day, I feel bad for you. All the pulled kids, combined with the problem children not in school, must really add up a low number for you : ( I feel so bad for the children in all of this, this is obviously a cycle of problems that WE are obviously not doing much to help correct.

M.

Fri, Apr 20, 2012 : 2:56 p.m.

Actually, according to one website that compares schools, Ypsilanti and WR had 98-99% students present for count day in 2008. I must assume that you do not have children in these schools. My daughter's future and education are infinitely more important to me than an altruistic sense of investing in my community. You are correct about the effects of this cycle, but I cannot bring myself to keep my daughter in these schools to receive poor education and peer influence for the sake of possibly improving the schools for future students.

cinnabar7071

Tue, Apr 17, 2012 : 3:28 p.m.

Egos? So you can run a school district into the ground and still have an ego? I would think they'd have to put their shame aside to move forward.

jns131

Tue, Apr 17, 2012 : 10:34 p.m.

I think you are going to see a whole new school board and a whole new set of faces taking over the system. This mess is going to take 2 or more years to get thru and over with.

Rob Pollard

Tue, Apr 17, 2012 : 2:04 p.m.

Danielle, there are two misspelling - the word "conscious" is written when it should be "conscience." Regarding the merger, this should be properly planned, and then take place as soon as possible.

Danielle Arndt

Tue, Apr 17, 2012 : 3:33 p.m.

Hi Rob, thank you for catching the error. It has been corrected. Thanks for reading!

Chrissa

Tue, Apr 17, 2012 : 2:02 p.m.

I'm with Snoop Dog. After being a WRHS student for 7 years, even the school I knew didn't exist any longer. My sister had to switch to Belleville as a Freshman because it got so bad. I wonder how many of those 120 people in attendance were parents of these truant, bullying, undisciplined malcontents? People, a school is meant to educate, not babysit your children. If you don't do your job at home, you can't send them off to school and expect them to be reformed. That being said, I had an overall 1.5 when I attended Willow Run and dropped out in 94' a month before graduation because of my own truancy issues. I re-did my senior year over again at another school and graduated with a 3.9. Now is that my fault or the school's fault for not alerting me to the fact that I was actually a bright student? I say neither. It is not a school's job to help me get good grades. They offer an opportunity (and hopefully) a safe place to learn. It is the parent's responsibility to motivate their children. It is the child's responsibility to do their best to have a successful feature. A lack of self-esteem and emotional issues contribute to these factors, but behavior starts at home. If people want a better community, a better school system, then they need to look to themselves and to each other to do that. And yes, board members holding their seats for 12 years? Fresh ideas are everything. Bring on the new meat.

Chrissa

Fri, Apr 20, 2012 : 7:11 p.m.

No, I'm not. I am never a fan of just having a kid "buck up". But on the flip side, there's only so much a school can do, if there is no support at home. Does that make more sense?

UlyssesWrong1

Thu, Apr 19, 2012 : 10:55 a.m.

"It is not a school's job to help me get good grades." Are you serious? If they don't learn how to be a good student at home, and you think schools aren't suppose to help them, you're basically telling us they should 'buck up' or fail like they've been doing. We're talking about CHILDREN here, not college students.

jns131

Tue, Apr 17, 2012 : 10:33 p.m.

With that being said. Even the ones who fled, ended up in the fire because those with issues were suspended or expelled and they ended up going to Belleville. Ergo Belleville now has the discipline problems. Their transportation system ended up having to get cameras on their buses because of this. Sad really. Why else is everyone fleeing the district. Detroit is taking over.

The Black Stallion3

Tue, Apr 17, 2012 : 12:09 p.m.

The public school system can not continue to operate by giving full pensions to their teachers and administrators. The American tax payers who have been forced to give up their pensions are not going to keep paying out their hard earned tax dollars for these public employees to live on pensions..The only way to solve this is to mandate 401K programs as their retirement. Next it will be our elected representatives that will have to change their retirement methods.

u812

Tue, Apr 17, 2012 : 2:36 p.m.

If I'm a consumer of goods your companies makes I want to dictate what you earn and what I pay, sounds right to you I believe, how's that shoe feel. It's the recession and housing bubble that caused state budget deficits,not public service workers or their unions.

local

Tue, Apr 17, 2012 : 2:13 p.m.

This isn't just a pension issue, this is an issue of students fleeing the district. The big question is why? If you think it is the teachers, that is your opinion. But I would guess if you went and spent time in the schools, specially in these two districts, you would see that the teachers are earning every amount of pay and benefit they are receiving.

pseudo

Tue, Apr 17, 2012 : 2:11 p.m.

First - lets please remember that these schools are NOT in trouble because of the economy. Its even possible they may be doing better than they would be financially because some students' family's who want to pull their kids can't afford it because of the bad economy. These schools are in trouble because every single day parents make decisions about their kids and what is good for them based on the choices available (in this case, learning environment and academic results). Parents have been pulling their kids faster than these schools can consolidate. Pulled students equates to pulled funding from the state.. This consolidation solves none of that. Second - lets also remember that teachers who are close to retirement now have spent their careers makeing less than others based on the promise of a pension AND that current school teachers are not getting 'full' pensions in the future. The teachers in these two systems have had an impossible job. Screwing them now is not "sharing" - its dumping on people who don't desserve it.

The Black Stallion3

Tue, Apr 17, 2012 : 1:41 p.m.

u812.....I am a tax payer, if you are a teacher than I am in essence your employer. The public employees and elected representatives have to share in this poor economic times, I am sure you agree with that as an American citizen.

u812

Tue, Apr 17, 2012 : 1:19 p.m.

if there is appropriate funds for retirement I'm for it.Just because your employer and or education level prevents you, don't dictate what others receive.

snoopdog

Tue, Apr 17, 2012 : 11:57 a.m.

failure+failure=failure These two school districts have been a mess for years and merging them will only allow them to "live and breath" for a few more years. Parents now have choice with charter schools and other schools of choice. My prediction is failure and a state takeover in less than 5 years. Good Day

local

Tue, Apr 17, 2012 : 11:15 a.m.

Yeah, we pulled our children out of Ypsilanti schools not because of the curriculum or teachers, but because the behavior of the students within the classroom setting was horrible. We could see that the teachers were doing there best to address the problem, but clearly these issues were more than just the students themselves.

jns131

Tue, Apr 17, 2012 : 10:24 p.m.

Could not agree more with both posts. Even teachers are trying to give students credit for just showing up. Scary.

Pickforddick

Tue, Apr 17, 2012 : 11:35 a.m.

These 2 districts are starting to mirror the Detroit public school problems.

Pickforddick

Tue, Apr 17, 2012 : 10:42 a.m.

Seems like the biggest foreseen problem is discipline..... not education......great way to start a merger !!!

M.

Fri, Apr 20, 2012 : 2:50 p.m.

My daughter is about to finish 2nd grade in an Ypsilanti school. I am transferring her to a different Ypsilanti school next year until I can move out of here. The reason I want to move is because of the schools. The reason I am transferring her is because of the behavioral problems with her classmates. I feel that the teachers hardly have time to cover the curriculum because they are so busy disciplining students, therefore the education suffers tremendously. Every day when I ask her how school was, the only stories I get are about her class getting in trouble and how angry she is that her classmates can't behave better. Even when asked about an exciting field trip to the Leslie Science Center, she said it was only "okay" because her class "didn't act good" and got in trouble.

jns131

Tue, Apr 17, 2012 : 10:23 p.m.

Every time I talk to a WR teacher? All they talk about is getting thru the day as a babysitter. Even the principal doesn't have a clue except to keep the EFM off their backs to boost grad rates. Mine will never set foot inside one of the schools ever.