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Posted on Mon, Aug 27, 2012 : 11:46 a.m.

Ypsilanti pushes back school start times to save $500,000

By Danielle Arndt

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Students board the bus to attend Ypsilanti Public Schools in this file photo. The district recently decided to push back school start times to save money on transportation.

Lon Horwedel | AnnArbor.com

Students at Ypsilanti Public Schools will start class next week anywhere from 10 to 40 minutes later than last year, a move designed to save the cash-strapped district money.

Changing the start time will save YPS approximately $500,000 by reducing the total number of buses and drivers on the road and, ultimately, the amount of fuel and maintenance the district requires, said new Director of Facilities and Operations Scott Snyder.

Ypsilanti parent Audrey Muraviou found out about the time switch last week. Her daughter, who starts kindergarten at Adams School Sept. 4, will need to arrive at the school at 9:05 a.m. — instead of 8:25 a.m. and will be getting out at 4:07 p.m.

She said the timing of the announcement is “unacceptable.” She understands the financial difficulties the district is facing, she said, but could not excuse the district's poor communication.

"I'm starting a new job. I already arranged my work schedule so that I could be there to get her on and off the bus. I can't change that now," Muraviou said. "They waited way, way too long to let people know. It's just not right."

Snyder, who was hired in July to fill a vacant position at Ypsilanti Public Schools, said pushing back and staggering the schools’ start times permits the district to create what he called a “four-tier system.” He said this means there are fewer buses doing more runs.

“Let’s say you had three sets of runs and only two buses. That’d be six total runs, because three times two,” Snyder explained. “But if you have those same two buses divided among four runs, that’s eight total runs… It’s more cost effective.”

With the four-tier system, Ypsilanti can eliminate nine buses from its fleet, dropping from 26 general education buses in 2011-12 to 17 for the upcoming school year.

Snyder said he worked closely with officials at the Washtenaw Intermediate School District to get as close to $600,000 in savings as he could. That was the amount the district targeted to cut from its transportation budget as part of its deficit elimination plan, which the Board of Education approved in May.

The WISD had to create the new routes with new stops and pick-up times that the four-tier system required. Ypsilanti, Ann Arbor and Willow Run contract with the WISD for transportation services through a consolidated busing consortium.

Snyder said the intermediate school district completed the routes last week and the information was “fanned out” by building principals through their newsletters. He said Ypsilanti was waiting for the WISD to complete the routes before posting the new school start times on the website. The times went up on the site last week.

The new times are as follows:

  • Perry Child Development Center: Morning Preschool 9:11 a.m. to 12:24 p.m.
  • Perry Child Development Center: Afternoon Preschool 12:53 p.m. to 4:02 p.m.
  • Perry Child Development Center: Kindergarten and First Grade 9:05 a.m. to 4:07 p.m.
  • Adams School: 9:05 a.m. to 4:07 p.m.
  • Erickson and Estabrook Elementaries: 8:25 a.m. to 3:27 p.m.
  • Middle School: 7:15 a.m. to 2:17 p.m.
  • High School: 7:35 a.m. to 2:57 p.m.
  • New Tech: 7:45 a.m. to 2:47 p.m.
  • Forest School: 8:30 a.m. to 3 p.m.
  • RCTC Auto - Morning Session: 7:44 a.m. to10:10 a.m.
  • RCTC Auto - Afternoon Session: 11:30 a.m. to 2:06 p.m.
  • RCTC Culinary Arts - Morning Session: 7:44 a.m. to 10:15 a.m.
  • RCTC Culinary Arts - Afternoon Session: 11:30 a.m. to 2:05 p.m.

Superintendent Dedrick Martin said the new start times and tiered busing "really meets multiple objectives."

The school board and administration discussed the high school’s start time in the past and thought it was too early based on numerous studies about teenagers’ natural sleeping patterns, Martin said. So the district wanted to push back the high school start time, if possible.

Martin also said previously the high school started later and got out earlier than the middle school, which sometimes created discipline and behavior problems.

“Sometimes you’d have the high school kids wandering over to the middle school to cause trouble afterschool,” he said, adding the new start times both will improve safety as well as generate savings.

Danielle Arndt covers K-12 education for AnnArbor.com. Follow her on Twitter @DanielleArndt or email her at daniellearndt@annarbor.com.

Comments

smc1971

Wed, Aug 29, 2012 : 12:01 p.m.

I'm all for saving money, but this plays havoc with family schedules, especially when you have kids in different school grades and they all start at different times. Also, 7:15 is way to early - 2 of our kids now have to be at the bus at 6:45, while the third doesn't have to be at school until 9:05a. Crazy.

jns131

Wed, Aug 29, 2012 : 1:57 p.m.

We gave up on the busing and went with AATA. Cheaper and more efficient then trying to keep up with the ever changing bus schedules. We also hired a child taxi service to pick ours up and take her where ever she needs to go. Or just take the AATA all the way home. Good luck parents with this nightmare. Glad I don't do what you do anymore.

jns131

Tue, Aug 28, 2012 : 3:24 p.m.

Get rid of Trinity. That will save Ypsi $180,00 a year. At least that was the amount I heard they are spending now on busing alone. Privatization does not work.

walker101

Tue, Aug 28, 2012 : 11:50 a.m.

Aflac, Aflac.

Sue Vasquez

Tue, Aug 28, 2012 : 6:35 a.m.

Snyder needs to work on her math explanations. Try this... "Let's say you had 120 kids to move, and each bus holds 30. You could use 4 buses to move them in 3 runs, OR you could use only 3 buses and do it in 4 runs" I am also confused by.. "Martin also said previously the high school started later and got out later than the middle school, which sometimes created discipline and behavior problems. ... you'd have the high school kids wandering over to the middle school to cause trouble afterschool," Your new schedule still has HS getting out later than MS. And if MS gets out first, the kids should be gone by the time HS gets out, and how could they cause trouble then?? These are the folks in charge of the education of our children?

jns131

Tue, Aug 28, 2012 : 3:28 p.m.

O by the way, I did your math? Yes, three buses can do that run safely.

jns131

Tue, Aug 28, 2012 : 3:26 p.m.

Buses do not carry 30. Most buses today carry close to 60 children. This way they are able to do the three run a day scenario. Good luck with that one. Especially when winter comes.

greg, too

Tue, Aug 28, 2012 : 4:50 a.m.

"Sometimes you'd have the high school kids wandering over to the middle school to cause trouble afterschool," That sounds like a much bigger problem than scheduling. Maybe that should require a bit better security?

Tom Todd

Tue, Aug 28, 2012 : 12:37 a.m.

maybe Romney can get us to work for $1an hour so his bodies can make more and pay less in taxes then you & I did last year.

TinyArtist

Tue, Aug 28, 2012 : 12:32 p.m.

Bad idea, Tom. I suspect Romney doesn't have enough brains for even one of his bodies.

HB11

Tue, Aug 28, 2012 : 11:36 a.m.

And become a legislator to change the tax code if you don't like it.

GoNavy

Tue, Aug 28, 2012 : 10:45 a.m.

Tom Todd, go to college become a PE manager don't be jealous.

GoNavy

Mon, Aug 27, 2012 : 11:55 p.m.

Students will start class later; less will be learned with fewer resources. However, those monthly benefit checks will continue to pour into union coffers.

Tom Todd

Tue, Aug 28, 2012 : 12:33 a.m.

go navy, go to college became a teacher join a union don't be jealous

slave2work

Mon, Aug 27, 2012 : 5:20 p.m.

Don't you wonder why this took so long.. Heaven forbid parents might need some time to plan a schedule. I'm so glad my kids are out of school. I completely sympathize with you Ms. Muraviou, but Congrats on your new job. Go get'em!!.

melloyellow

Mon, Aug 27, 2012 : 4:57 p.m.

WEll two more runs +savings===$ 500 000 Hmmmh ? Do the busses one the 2 more runs Donot need gasoline? But the change in times is very good Now our children get there extra sleep and in the afternoon ..less change to get in trouble...for the parents that come home by 5.00 pm.

greg, too

Tue, Aug 28, 2012 : 4:52 a.m.

What is sounds like is the logic behind flight planning for the airlines. Assume that a certain percentage aren't going to show and then hope for the best. Problem is, I am assuming they are not offering up free flight and drink vouchers if everyone shows up.

glimmertwin

Mon, Aug 27, 2012 : 4:55 p.m.

It is late notice which again is just an administrative blunder. I have to wonder: If they could have been saving this kind of money all along, why weren't they doing it? It seems like every time we turn around, more mismanagement slips out from the cracks.

johnnya2

Mon, Aug 27, 2012 : 9:04 p.m.

Part of the reason is parents will need to make arrangements when they have children in multiple schools. The ideal would be that in and out ties are fairly similar. If we really wanted to save money there is another plan that could go into effect. Year round school and 24 hour schools. If a high school goes for 8 hours a day with 1000 kids, they could do 3000 kids, with 3- 8 hour school days. We as a society have not deemed that a good plan. Yes it saves money and is more efficient, but the other costs are too high. The biggest issue I have with this, is why are high school age starting so early. Let them start at 9 am, and make elementary schools start earliest. As kids get older their natural body clocks and need for sleep changes.. The other thing that should happen is year round school. You could put more students in the school, and have instruction the same number of days over the course of a year, yet the school never being closed except maybe for the last two weeks of December.

Dog Guy

Mon, Aug 27, 2012 : 4:47 p.m.

Changing anything in order to save money is a bold new concept in public education. Best wishes to YPS for success in this venture into the unknown.

jns131

Tue, Aug 28, 2012 : 3:30 p.m.

I am waiting for next year when the merger occurs and WR has to rehire those teachers, which some will probably not get their jobs back due to the amount they make now.