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Posted on Mon, Sep 12, 2011 : 10:17 p.m.

Michigan football team's turnaround in turnover margin mitigating its defensive woes

By Kyle Meinke

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Michigan defensive lineman Will Campbell celebrates after recovering a Notre Dame fumble, one of five Fighting Irish turnovers in Michigan's 35-31 win last Saturday.

Angela J. Cesere | AnnArbor.com

The Michigan football team is 2-0, and it's certainly not thanks to its defense.

Except for one thing: Turnovers.

The Wolverines have forced eight turnovers in two games, including five in Saturday's 35-31 comeback win against Notre Dame. One came on an interception by junior corner J.T. Floyd at the goal line, and another came on a fumble recovery by defensive tackle Ryan Van Bergen with the Irish at Michigan's 7-yard line and leading 24-21 with 6:08 remaining.

The turnovers helped keep Michigan in the game, despite Notre Dame's 513 yards of offense.

"We emphasize that in practice. Whether we're in shoulder pads or not, we're trying to strip our backs," Van Bergen said Monday at the team's weekly news conference. "Every ball that's on the ground is our ball, regardless of if it's incomplete or a fumble. We're going to get that ball.

"When you look at it, we're probably creating (some of the most) turnovers in college football. Hopefully that's a trend that we can maintain, because that's only going to mean good things for us as a team."

After posting an NCAA-worst minus-32 turnover margin the past three years, Michigan currently is plus-five, sixth in the country when including the opener against Western Michigan (which the NCAA does not recognize statistically).

One player who picked up a fumble recovery against Notre Dame was junior Will Campbell, the enigmatic tackle who has been inconsistent throughout his career despite being a highly regarded recruit.

Van Bergen said Campbell has played well lately, despite moving from the nose tackle position to the three-technique defensive line spot, responsible for the gap between the offensive guard and tackle.

"If he's playing well, we have a great defensive line," Van Bergen said. "I think coaches are a little bit concerned with consistency and we've moved him from nose to three, so he's had to learn a little bit more scheme than they wanted him to at first.

"He's a great player when he's playing well, he just has to be more consistent in practice."


Defensive line struggling

The turnovers helped mitigate what otherwise has been a poor start for Michigan's defense, especially up front.

A week after struggling to put any kind of pressure on Western Michigan quarterback Alex Carder, Michigan's front four struggled again to get to Rees.

"We’re not near to the expectations that we have," Hoke said. "I think the kids feel the same way at that position. I think there are things that Ryan Van Bergen has done at times that are really well.

"We have to feel those guys. We need to get a little big more pressure with four guys rushing the quarterback, so you don’t put (corners) J.T. (Floyd) or Courtney Avery out there on an island. I think we’re a work in progress in a lot of degrees.

Rees finished 27-of-39 passing for 315 yards and three touchdowns. Receiver Michael Floyd had 13 catches for 159 yards. Cierre Wood had 25 rushes for 141 yards and one touchdown.

"Some of it is because it’s a little different schematically, and how you attack the line of scrimmage, take on blocks, and get off blocks," Hoke said. "We would think we’d be further along.”

Van Bergen said a lot of the schematic changes for defensive linemen is in their attitude and that, despite a dearth of positive results, he likes playing in the system and thinks they'll get untracked.

"It's a more aggressive attitude," the senior said. "It's not a 'Get in your gap and play it,' it's an 'Attack the guy across from you, and if you happen to see the ball, good.' It's a really aggressive (defense) and it's fun to play that way. It really is."

Michigan, for the most part, has been able to pressure the quarterback only when defensive coordinator Greg Mattison works in his intricate blitz packages.

That has been effective, but also often left the middle of the field open against Notre Dame.

"Honestly, it shouldn’t have been (open)," Hoke said. "It’s open for a second, and then we’ve got to execute a little better at closing it off. You can get hurt, no question."


Hoke on Denard's bizarre day

Michigan quarterback Denard Robinson accounted for 98.7 percent of his team's offensive production, but also threw three picks and completed only four passes in the first three quarters.

Did he have a bad game, good game or little of both?

“Probably a little of both," Hoke said. "Obviously, he made some plays when we needed to have some plays made, which a guy of his capability and caliber can do, but we also needed to make better decisions at times.

"He was the first one to come off the field after one (bad play) and say, ‘My footwork was bad.’ So, that’s good to see. The whole thing is a process, to some degree, and we’re learning everyday.”


Players keep jerseys

Players can keep their "legacy" jerseys from Saturday’s win. Athletic director Dave Brandon told reporters he received several requests from players to hang on to the uniforms, but first had to check with the school's compliance department.


Hoke thinks Toussaint will play

Hoke said he expects starting tailback Fitz Toussaint to play against Eastern Michigan (2-0) after he missed the Notre Dame game because of an ailing shoulder. Hoke said the sophomore hurt it when he bumped against a defender in Michigan’s opener against Western Michigan.


Woolfolk 'fine' despite mounting injuries

Hoke said top cornerback Troy Woolfolk is "fine," despite spraining his left ankle in the opener, hurting his right hand in practice Thursday and cutting his nose badly against Notre Dame. He also wore a large cast on his right hand and forearm.


WMU stats are no more

Hoke, on the NCAA ruling it will not recognize stats from the opener against Western Michigan: “You know what, that’s their decision.”

Does he need an explanation? “No.”

Does he care? “No. It’s a 'W,' right?”


Quote of the day

Hoke, on calming Robinson before games: "I’d rather break a bucking bronco than a lame mare. He’ll be all right. He’ll play within the framework and he’ll play within the offense.”


Odds and ends

  • According to several players, Robinson joined Twitter on Monday night with the handle @DenardX. The school verified it is a real account. As of 10 p.m., he had picked up more than 7,000 followers.
  • Michigan is 5-for-5 in red zone opportunities this year. “I think we’ve got a pretty good package down there, and the kids are executing," Hoke said.
  • Michigan, which finished last in the country last year in field goal kicking, has yet to attempt one this year. Placekicker Brendan Gibbons is 9-of-10 on extra-point attempts. His one miss was blocked.
  • Overall, Hoke said his team is “pretty healthy,” a refrain he’s echoed since the start of fall camp.
  • Hoke said he won't hold walk-on tryouts until January. "I want to see them go through the strength program first," he said
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Kyle Meinke covers Michigan football for AnnArbor.com. He can be reached at 734-623-2588, by email at kylemeinke@annarbor.com and followed on Twitter @kmeinke.

Comments

Blu-dogg97

Tue, Sep 13, 2011 : 4:51 p.m.

NO update on Cam Gordon ? Blue could use his athleticism on D..

Lorain Steelmen

Tue, Sep 13, 2011 : 3:12 p.m.

ERMG...yes, you're right, UM was supposed to hear in late August/ early September, regarding his request. I guess the NCAA will move at it's own speed. Must be frustrating for him.....

Edward R Murrow's Ghost

Tue, Sep 13, 2011 : 4:50 p.m.

. . . and for us. See Blu's reply above. No decision until his senior year? Unconscionable. GN&GL

Ross

Tue, Sep 13, 2011 : 2:55 p.m.

On the poor results of the defense / d-line vs ND.... Did anyone else see Mike Martin repeatedly backing off the D-line into coverage? As in, this was a designed defensive play call, drop Martin (or someone else) back 10 yards immediately upon the snap, perhaps as a spy for the short slant route?. I saw at least two long runs by ND punched right through the exact hole Martin created. The blame for this falls on Mattison, clearly. Looked like he decided to stop doing this during thew second half, thank goodness. If there's anyone that can handle a double team on the line of scrimmage, its Martin, so to drop him off it and overload the other guys is just plain dumb.

Blu n Tpa

Tue, Sep 13, 2011 : 2:08 p.m.

Oh, there was something else Ghost. DG hasn't seen the field because Michigan didn't play the 4th quarter of the WM game. But I wonder if he had played would it had counted since the NCAA ruled that the game stats aren't official. My guess is it's their rules so you won't know until he loses the redshirt. What a system.

Blu n Tpa

Tue, Sep 13, 2011 : 1:59 p.m.

Ghost There won't be a ruling until DG's senior year due to insanely stupid rules at the NCAA. Oh hum, we will just keep peoples lives in suspended animation because WE CAN! It's little wonder that the NCAA is being held in the same strata as the government these days. How does tsopio have three more players caught taking money during the time the NCAA is investigating the football program and it doesn't come out until AFTER the hearing. If the school didn't come clean during the closed door portion of the hearing, then the NCAA needs to come down hard on them. (Hey, I was replying to Ghost here and now he's gone!) ERMG Wheeerrrreeee aarree yyoouu? You really are a GHOST!

Blu n Tpa

Tue, Sep 13, 2011 : 6 p.m.

Yeah, tried to catch up on my reading and lost my place. Glad you weren't deleted for what you wrote. Whew!

Edward R Murrow's Ghost

Tue, Sep 13, 2011 : 2:30 p.m.

My post to which you are replying is under LS's comment. But ghosts do tend to be ephemeral. Thanks for the info. Absurd. Which I guess is what one of the As in NCAA stands for. GN&GL

Lorain Steelmen

Tue, Sep 13, 2011 : 1:36 p.m.

Note to Brady...get Devin Gardner some reps.....cuz, we just may need him, before its all over.

BlueGator

Tue, Sep 13, 2011 : 7:11 p.m.

I agree, Lorain, as regards Devin. Also, if UM has ANY desire to use Rawls as their power back this year, get it going in the next two games or forget it and give him his redshirt. I say give Rawls a shot. He can't be worse than Hopkins, Toussaint is injury-prone, and Cox, though talented, reportedly has trouble even remembering the playbook.

Edward R Murrow's Ghost

Tue, Sep 13, 2011 : 1:39 p.m.

Indeed. Though I have never heard the status of the request that last year might be a R/S year. You? Wonder if they might try to keep DG out so that this year might be R/S? GN&GL

Blu n Tpa

Tue, Sep 13, 2011 : 12:36 p.m.

Lot's of information here. Good news that Woolfolk isn't made of glass and let there be no doubt about his toughness. Getting a cleat to the nose would bring most men to their knees with tears running down their face. The right hand in the cast is problematic for a corner so we'll see it that leads to missed opportunities. During the next two games I think you give Will Campbell as much time on the field has you can and see where that goes. If he can be productive and consistent then great. Otherwise there has to be a end game with this player. I am all for giving players a chance to "find" themselves and play up to their ability. But there is a time when the coach's efforts could be better spent with other players. You can't teach "heart" so Big Will that clock you hear ticking is for you. That fact that Michigan hasn't even tried a field goal is more a testament to having a perfect red zone TD mark than lack of confidence in Brendan Gibbons. It might not seem that way to everybody but would you rather have four less points in the ND game when the clock hit 0:00? Me either. DRob needs to concentrate on being a better QB and that why you see such a contrast from the first half to the second half. It's like teaching young kids to hit a baseball. They usually walk so why swing? Because you have to swing and miss before you can swing and hit. Some of DRob's passes look really bad but the recievers helped him out. He has to throw the ball badly before he learns to throw the ball great. So as long as Michigan continues to win, DRob will learn to be a pocket passer with the ability to move as the game dictates. Some will think this as a waste of talent but I feel it's going to make him a better QB. And for everything he does for Michigan that's the least Michigan can do for him. TiM Go Blue!

1st Down

Tue, Sep 13, 2011 : 8:55 a.m.

"I'd rather break a bucking bronco than a lame mare." I reckon Coach Hoke been watchin' too many Westerns yall... Love that photo above of the Statute of Campbell.

XTR

Tue, Sep 13, 2011 : 6:44 a.m.

The MSU - ND game will tell us which team is for real and which is not. If the B1G co favorite MSU beats ND handily in South Bend then there is some logic that MSU is above both teams, a loss means that they are not that much better than both and the B1G is up for grabs!

RJ12688

Tue, Sep 13, 2011 : 8:16 a.m.

I really think ND will give MSU all they can handle. They've got some talent, but for whatever reason they cant avoid shooting themselves in the foot. If they play smart, I think they will beat sparty. Normally, id be rooting for sparty, but i cant stand their fans anymore.

lawrencelaundry

Tue, Sep 13, 2011 : 5:54 a.m.

I would also would note that ND is loaded with talent on offense and mostly all their linemen are seniors. Im wilbet that eastern will be a blowout and Michigan will be pretty darn good in the Big Ten this year. Not to mention ND defense is loaded with talent. Not that many teams in the Big ten have that much talent with a top notch coach like Kelly. MSU will have their hands full this week. We stole a win with the skin of our teeth. But I'll take it. It would not surprise me if the only other lose they have is Stanford. Go Blue

lawrencelaundry

Tue, Sep 13, 2011 : 5:29 a.m.

BIG WILL needs to play all the time to get his conditioning up to par so when Big Ten comes around he will be ready. With him the defense is much better. Disappointed with Rohs performance and as far as Martin, I can't complain cause the dude is always getting double teamed. Saturdays game was unreal, im glad I was there to witness it.

Macabre Sunset

Tue, Sep 13, 2011 : 4:32 a.m.

Michigan was +4 in turnovers in 2010 after two games, +4 after non-conference play, and -14 in the Big Ten. In 2009, Michigan was +2 after two games, and -14 the rest of the season. And in 2008, Michigan was +1 after two games and -11 the rest of the way. It's nice to start 2-0, but the defense still isn't good and all that matters lies in the Big Ten.

truebluefan

Tue, Sep 13, 2011 : 3:01 p.m.

Excellent point, Macabre. The positive turnover margin is the only reason we are keeping our heads above water at this point. That said, the D appears to be tackling better this season. However, I do recall that the D appeared to be tackling well last season in the first two games (then UMass came to town). Overall, I think Mattison will get the D playing at least average by season's end. But I still have a ton of reservations about the offense. Borges needs to remember that Denard is lethal because of his legs, not because of his arm.

BlueGator

Tue, Sep 13, 2011 : 1:01 p.m.

Good observation, @Sunset. While we all know that the three prior seasons turned ugly after promising starts (even in 2008 we were 2-2 after the first four games of the new regime), I didn't realize the dramatic change in turnover margin during those years. While you certainly can get your football butt kicked without making turnovers, they certainly don't help matters.

RJ12688

Tue, Sep 13, 2011 : 8:12 a.m.

thanks... because we all havent heard the starting out good and losing later point yet.