Up to 50 people gather to plan next steps for Occupy Ann Arbor
Wayne State student and former Ann Arbor resident Lucianna Sabgash, center, speaks to the crowd during a Wall Street protest open forum in the Diag at the Univeristy of Michigan's campus in Ann Arbor on Oct. 6.
Joseph Tobianski I AnnArbor.com
Between 40 and 50 Occupy Ann Arbor participants gathered outside at Liberty Plaza in downtown Ann Arbor Thursday to discuss their next moves, according to a Michigan Daily article.
Several of the Ann Arbor protesters —who are rallying against unemployment and perceived economic inequality— are concerned about "the movement’s future strength, the safety of the plaza and the ability of the camp to withstand the harsh Michigan winter," the Daily reported.
A handful of participants have been sleeping out in Liberty Plaza as an act of protest.
When the group met Thursday night, they discussed further ways to organize and gain traction.
Ann Arbor activists held their first gathering on Oct. 6 to discuss a large-scale protest. Approximately 200 people attended that rally.
The Ann Arbor movement is an offshoot of an ongoing Occupy Wall Street protest in New York.
Read the Daily report here.
Kellie Woodhouse covers higher education for AnnArbor.com. Reach her at kelliewoodhouse@annarbor.com or 734-623-4602 and follow her on twitter.
Comments
Halter
Sat, Oct 22, 2011 : 12:25 p.m.
Wow... .03 percent of the population in Ann Arbor interested a week ago... .0075 just a few days later... Stay warm, kids, stay warm.
say it plain
Sat, Oct 22, 2011 : 1:22 p.m.
Gotta love this smug, "numbers-based" lol, dismissal ...
Monica R-W
Sat, Oct 22, 2011 : 8:31 a.m.
Wait....this picture and the article is like TWO WEEKS OLD. Ann Arbor.com, they have been occupying for TWO WEEKS since. I have main pictures available of the RECENT General Assemblies...for photo credit. Sad when the best that can be done is a two week old picture on a yesterday article. Your offices are right around the bend from Liberty Square. They won't bite.
Tru2Blu76
Sat, Oct 22, 2011 : 7:47 a.m.
It's not wrong to protest something which damages Americans across the country. It is wrong-thinking to believe that "occupy protests" are any more effective than they were for student activists who occupied university properties during the Sixties. This kind of protest amounts to angry outburst but no such outburst is sustainable. So the current Occupy Movement won't last. The danger is that then the news media will "tell us" it's a failure and extrapolate to the (false) conclusion that it's useless to protest corporate crimes and abuses. Proven successful: strikes, boycotts and lots of pressure on state and federal legislators to even the playing field and restrict reckless business practices. LOTS of pressure is what I'm talking about. Republicans had great success with sending people to disrupt Democrat legislators' meeting with their constituents: lets see the Occupy Movement concentrate on Republican legislators' public meetings. Pay back is a, mmm, "unpleasant experience." About the phrase: "I don't embarrass my company." -- Fine, for those who work for companies who don't embarrass them and don't abuse the rest of us. I too "bathe" and I too have a fine work history - doesn't mean a thing if I can't get a job because of crooked (and illegal) corporate actions which caused millions to become unemployed and unemployable. RE: "I separate my business and personal lives." If you do dirty work, then you bring that dirt into your personal life, make no mistake about that. No one (except those who're paid to do it) has the duty to be a good corporate mouthpiece. We all have the duty to be good American citizens who care about our country - first - and about our fellow Americans - first.
J Shaker
Sat, Oct 22, 2011 : 2:30 a.m.
I support and admire the occupiers. And even so if it's one person, fifty, a thousand, a million. Keep it going. I look forward to coming by soon.
Megan Greene
Sat, Oct 22, 2011 : 12:51 a.m.
I support this movement for many reasons. Greed is out of control in America with heads of corporations and financial institutions making 1,000 times more than individual employees. It wasn't like this a few decades ago. The financial system is broken. Forget the bailout of Wall Street for a moment, the system is designed so that that groups who know how the system works, e.g., hedge funds, can make money when everyone else is losing money, e.g., ordinary investors in stocks and retirement funds. The political system is broken. Look at the host of Republican candidates. None of them has a solution for anything that favors the poor and middle class working class families. They're still distracting the public with economic issues such as gay marriage, abortion, global warming, and fear of terrorism. Jobs should be the issue but it is not. Intelligent economists mostly agree that increased individual spending, corporate spending and government spending are all needed to improve the economy. Our response to health care, when there are so many uninsured Americans and in persons in need of services, makes us look like a nation without compassion. There are 10 times more lobbyists in Washington for the drug industry than legislators. There's no chance for a government supported health care program to pass Congress. So we are left with a terrible situation that we can't take care of our elderly and poor, or kids from low income families. So something is very wrong. I applaud the people in America who pay attention to these conditions and let their feelings known. I'm especially proud of the young people who stopped protesting in cyber space and went out into the streets. We need change. We couldn't get it from Obama because greedy individuals and groups tied his hands. Maybe the people in the streets will get the message out that change is coming whether government and corporations are on board or not.
Charlie Brown's Ghost
Sat, Oct 22, 2011 : 2:55 a.m.
Look at the host of Republican candidates. None of them has a solution for anything that favors the poor and middle class working class families. Error. "They're still distracting the public with economic issues such as gay marriage, abortion, global warming, and fear of terrorism. " Gay marriage, abortion, global warming and terrorism are economic issues? "Intelligent economists mostly agree that increased individual spending, corporate spending and government spending are all needed to improve the economy." If the intelligent ones think the solution is more government spending, then there's a problem with the definition of "intelligent." A better description of those would be "Democrat economists." "There's no chance for a government supported health care program to pass Congress." Except for the one that already did pass Congress.
J Shaker
Sat, Oct 22, 2011 : 2:32 a.m.
Yes!
snapshot
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 9:22 p.m.
Let's not forget that government regulators and employees aided and abbetted the Wall Street meltdown by not doing their jobs properly. The Madoff scheme could have been discovered or prevented with a simple verification process that was supposed to be a requirement oversight strategy.
say it plain
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 9:56 p.m.
Absolutely...and part of the problem is that the government and Wall Street have had for years and years now a totally inappropriate set of connections one to the other.
RTFM
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 5:18 p.m.
I believe the occupiers of whatever street are the less than 1%. I would rather have a rich person on any street than the goverment stealing the wealth because of less than 1% protesting.
snapshot
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 9:25 p.m.
Is there no "honor among thieves"?
Peter
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 5:43 p.m.
Rebels without a cause!
genetracy
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:55 p.m.
Occupy Ann Arbor? Sound like a group who will protest high latte prices at the local Starbucks.
joe.blow
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 5:05 p.m.
Starbucks if part of the wall street problem. Except they have yummy coffee type drinks, so that makes them okay. And most of these protesters drive a Toyota, so that cooperation is okay also. Those signs are made by 3M, they I guess they're okay also. Turns out, the protesters are hypocrites.
godsbreath64
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:59 p.m.
No justice, no brew! No justice, ...
cibachrome
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:52 p.m.
Ann Arbor has a very large number of 1%ers (the ones making $508,000 per year or more). The U and the hospitals are the majority of this population. Why not start there and head over to Google afterwards ? BTW: it takes about 10% of the population to accept a belief before the rest of the population falls in line. I just read this in the latest RPI Journal. This protest is just the start of a movement that could become a groundswell at the next major election day. Start here: $800,000 to a foreign artist while police and fire and homeless are shoved aside.
joe.blow
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:59 p.m.
Start at the hospital and go after them. I like. Let's see, the average citizen in this country has a high school diploma. A nurse has a 4 year degree and is responsible for lives, if's she married to another nurse, they're in the top 1%. Protest them! Next up physical therapists, they make enough alone to be the top 1%, whats that a 8 year degree, hmm, that wasn't work. FREE LOADERS!!!! Next up, Doctors. Hmm, 4 years of college (everyone does that), 4 years of horrible, painful, no life medical school (ouch), 3-9 years of non-human 80hr/week residency, yet those jerks think they want to make the top 1%, ego-maniacs! Yes, let's protest the people who worked their rear off to help others. I'm all for that.
joe.blow
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:42 p.m.
Fact 1. These protesters LOVE Obama Fact 2. These protesters are protesting against the bail outs of Wall Street Fact 3. Obama pushed for the Wall Street bail out Fact 4. These protesters are against corporate American Fact 5. Obama accepted more corporate money than any other president in history Fact 6. Washington DC has the highest wage of any city in the country Fact 7. Lawyers and lobbyists make up most of the D.C. wealth Fact 8. Obama said he wanted to outlaw lobbyists because they're for corporate interest, not the people, yet they're the reason D.C wealth increased. Fact 9. OWS is for Obama, making them both Hypocrites.
Charlie Brown's Ghost
Sat, Oct 22, 2011 : 2:48 a.m.
No
Sparty
Sat, Oct 22, 2011 : 2:32 a.m.
Oh, they look like liberals? And what do liberals look like? Educated, progressive, open minded, diverse AMERICANS ?
Charlie Brown's Ghost
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 10:30 p.m.
Not at all, Rob. They look like liberals.
Smart Logic
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 8:47 p.m.
Oh snap. It's raining cold hard facts up in here! Nicely done.
Sparty
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 7:32 p.m.
Look like what Ghost ? You're getting pretty close to crossing a line here, I think, aren't you ?
Charlie Brown's Ghost
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 6:04 p.m.
Just take one look at them. Obama voters are the only who look like that.
godsbreath64
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 5:15 p.m.
Come on Mental, that is pretty rough of you to make one who has gone to such great lengths itemizing facts to provide a basis for them.
mentalNomad
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 5:10 p.m.
Can you provide your evidence for Fact #1? Many people who sympathize with OWS are highly disappointed with Obama. But there has not been any viable alternative yet.
Davidian
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:15 p.m.
I understand the spirit of protesting against out-of-control greed, but the other side of the coin is that many of these people seem bitter about their situation when they are solely responsible for it. Early on I knew I probably needed a hard skill and an education to become successful. I accomplished both goals. I am covered head to toe in tattoos, but I never got them on my hands or face and I never show them at work. I act/dress/speak/write professionally. I bathe. I do not bring my politics into my work environment. I do not embarrass my company. Am I angry at what is going on in this country? Of course. But I have learned how to separate my personal and business life. Unfortunately, this concept seems to have gone completely over the head of the OWS protesters. Cultivate an education, a work history, and professionalism, and you will be successful. Fail to do this and you will....fail. Frankly, I would've been all about this when I was 20, disaffected, and immature. Now that I'm in my 30s and my hard work has paid off very well, I confess that I have little sympathy for or anything in common with the OWS protesters.
say it plain
Sat, Oct 22, 2011 : 1:26 p.m.
Wait, so, @Davidian really *doesn't* have some list of statements they've made that can back up his 'ideas' about why the protesters are unhappy about the state we're in?! Wow...
Lolly
Sat, Oct 22, 2011 : 12:54 p.m.
I think you are mistaking who is at the protest. My husband and I were at the first one and we continue to support and drop by. We are both employed and have been continuously. That doesn't prevent us from recognizing and wishing to fight against greed and corruption. If you are happy with corporate lobbyists buying votes in congress, if you would rather that corporations and wealthy individuals not pay their fair share when we need investment in infrastructure and environmental protections and money to pay teachers and police and firefighters, then you have the right to sit on the sidelines and keep your own counsel. Be careful about smugness, though, and be very careful about describing and criticizing people you know nothing about.
Tru2Blu76
Sat, Oct 22, 2011 : 7:58 a.m.
RE: "many of these people seem bitter about their situation when they are solely responsible for it. "--- Prove that statement. How do you know that these people have not gotten an education, or established a work history or failed to act professionally??? You don't know - is the answer. What does "seem" mean to you? You apparently don't know that "seem" or "seems" means maybe, it does not support a conclusion of any sort. For that matter, your statements about your own accomplishments are just claims. How do we know you "act professionally" and "don't embarrass your employer?" "Seems" that you may be just another stuffed shirt corporate guy.
say it plain
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 5:50 p.m.
Please then @Davidian, give me a link or a sense of these 'personal gripes' that reflect their personal failings instead of structural problems that we need to address in our society/government/financial systems?
Davidian
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 5:19 p.m.
Say it plain: Oh, I totally agree with you. I agree that runaway greed and corruption is a very real problem (that's the gist of my very first statement). I donate, I do charity work, and I used to be one of those people that was totally broke. I used to work in a scrap yard. But my issue is that a lot of these people don't seem to be focused on that. They have all kinds of demands and gripes and I think it's just a reflection of their own personal failures. I don't think I'm off base to point that out, either.
say it plain
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 5:15 p.m.
Think about what these protesters are on about. They are not critiquing the 'system' that doesn't accept their 'quirks'. The are critiquing the idea that people need to go into a trillion dollars worth of collective debt to get an education --and it is indeed something worthwhile to want!--while Wall Street debts are forgiven. They are protesting how when they're done with that educational experience, and hope to earn a salary that allows them to pay back their debt--the *only* kind not erased even in bankruptcy!--they cannot find decent jobs. They are protesting how the people--especially Wall Streeters--who profit mightily from that situation, and to whom our government for years has been beholden in the most egregiously blatant way, seem to live by different rules--no accountability for loss, no indictment for crime. Indeed, our leaders seem to ask them first how they prefer things to work. Hey, Larry Summers, Tim Geitner, Hank Paulson and the zillions of lesser folks who use the revolving door between Wall Street and our government--what do *you* think we should do as economic and fiscal policy?! The result has been the destruction of the middle class, the historically greatest enrichment of the already-wealthy we've seen, and an increase in those who can't put food on their tables. You can claim we haven't kept up education-wise with the developing nations like China, and then you can look at how these wealthy political patrons have done all they could to undermine public education in this nation. You can claim that these protesters are different from the conservative end of the spectrum of people who are fed up, and that is true in many many ways...but they are unhappy about many of the same things. The consumption ponzi schemes of the last couple of decades are tumbling down like a house of cards. Good for you @Davidian that you're doing well, but those who are not are willing to consider "what's going on".
joe.blow
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:44 p.m.
You go it! Watch the liberals now come out to attack you.
godsbreath64
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:41 p.m.
Fiction is your calling Davidian.
Buster W.
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:28 p.m.
Spot on, Davidian!
godsbreath64
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:07 p.m.
The stock market looses 20% of its wealth in 18 months with no prosecutions at all and this annarbor.con's author has the cajones to upload "perceived economic equalities". Wow.
say it plain
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 5:47 p.m.
Okay, I guess I got to do it...perhaps the issue @godsbreath64 is referring to is the now-well-documented *actual fraud* that helped cause this latest stock market crash, which would have been even worse, admittedly, if the government hadn't come in and covered up...I mean, *propped up* lol...the system that allowed for massive profits to be made by Wall Street, but which were truly endangering the entire global financial system! No indictments though, despite the evidence. Indeed, now we know that the SEC had been for years *destroying * evidence from their investigations, as a matter of 'policy'! We know this because finally some people who worked there and couldn't quite bring themselves to swallow the criminality took the career suicide pill instead and told about it. Hmm, did that have anything to do with how the SEC was and is consistently run by someone from the too-big-to-fail Wall Street firms?! And they then go back to become CEO of whatever when they're finished with "public service"?! Anyway...yes, markets are subject to business cycles, of course. This wasn't that ;-) And then of course, these losses didn't seem to 'work' the way they do for all the smalltime investors as they did for the big firms.
Davidian
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 5:32 p.m.
This is a very puzzling comment. It doesn't sound like you have a very good understanding of what the stock market is or how it works.
grye
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 5:19 p.m.
If you don't like the volatility of the stock market, stick your money under the mattress or put it in the bank at 1% interest. Nobody is forcing you to invest in corporate america and you should not want to take away the profits of those that are willing to accept the risks.
Jhonny
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:58 p.m.
godsbreath I think you should tell your teacher to keep his socialist opinion to him or herself.
godsbreath64
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:49 p.m.
Thanks for that corroboration, 'blow.
Buster W.
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:40 p.m.
There have been 20% drops in the market (bear) just as there have been 20% increases in the market (bull)....this has been going on for decades and decades.
tdw
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:27 p.m.
That's why investing in the stock market is called a risk
godsbreath64
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:25 p.m.
The fleecing of America is incontrovertibly in progress. The author is out of line calling it "perceived" and ergo is the problem. The German people needed their eyes opened to their atrocities in the 40s, too.
Buster W.
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:14 p.m.
Nobody is forcing you to invest in the stock market.
Charlie Brown's Ghost
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:01 p.m.
40-50 people this time, and 200 the previous meeting? To paraphrase Bob Eucker, juuuuuuuust a bit outside of 99%.
say it plain
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 8:53 p.m.
Okay, right, @joe.blow..."they" can't be considered some unified force then, if some (as the 'one' you heard on the radio today) are arguing that this is a world-wide movement (which, I think it seems clear, it *is*), while some others (interviewed for the Daily) think its impact will be minimal. I maintain that, therefore, your comment about 'liberal arts profs' and their brainwashing must either be facetious or the sad result of an anachronistic stereotype :-)
Sparty
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 7:31 p.m.
40 people to PLAN the OCCUPY Ann Arbor rally -- did you actually read the article or just go immediately into a frenzy?
joe.blow
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 6:10 p.m.
Actually I heard a political science professor on the radio today defend the lack of numbers in Detroit by saying that this is a world wide movement and that it will likely last because of it (notice the lack of actually answering the question). So, despite saying they have nothing to do with this, they sure aren't on the side lines. A little devils advocating.
say it plain
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 5:40 p.m.
Hey @joe.blow...did you actually read the article referenced here? The 'liberal arts profs' here aren't organizing these--you must be stuck in the 60s, back when the charismatic profs at places like UM weren't part of the 'establishment' lol. Indeed, there is a 'related topic' piece in the Daily about how "UM professors" ( I didn't read on to find out which ones) don't think the OWS movement will have much impact, so, you might want to update your stereotypes about (local, anyway ) "liberal arts" professors. By the way, just to say, the "liberal" in that phrase doesn't mean the same thing as you might usually interpret it to mean... The local *school* teachers group seems supportive of this movement, though, so you can bring out all the stereotypes there ;-)
joe.blow
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:46 p.m.
The liberal arts professors could only find 40-50 subjects.....aaa....students to brainwash ....um.... teach the inequalities of life to.
nickcarraweigh
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 3:56 p.m.
Someday these folks will learn to just lie back and enjoy it, like everybody else.
quetzalcoatl
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 3:50 p.m.
With crime so rampant in the mean Ann Arbor streets (I saw a car idling at the curb just this morning) this makes me so mad I could spit. We have homeless people living under bridges who somehow think it is OK to get drunk. On a positive note, I saw yesterday where they make the homeless stand in the rain outside the homeless shelter waiting for their meal, which at least is a step in the right direction. Wake up, people! If we don't nip this in the bud, pretty soon they will be swearing and chewing tobacco and reading Ayn Rand and stuff.
joe.blow
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:47 p.m.
I agree, what are you saying, set down the pipe man.
Davidian
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 3:53 p.m.
I'm sorry, I have no idea what point you are trying to make.
Hmm
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 3:33 p.m.
Every time I read the acronym OWS I have to remind myself it's occupy wall street, not Old West Side
pbehjatnia
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 3:19 p.m.
Oh Dear! They can't occupy Liberty Plaza. It's bad for business. How will the dealers survive? They will drive away customers. Shucks. Another business will go under on Liberty. But, and this is just a big MAYBE, perhaps some panhandlers who have lost business further up in Liberty could pick up some new territory around the little cluster of protesters? After all, these guys are all for social justice, right?
Roy Munson
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 3:05 p.m.
Here is an idea of what you protesters can do during the cold season... <a href="http://www.annarbor.com/business-review/zingermans-seeks-to-hire-300-seasonal-workers-for-mail-order-operations/">http://www.annarbor.com/business-review/zingermans-seeks-to-hire-300-seasonal-workers-for-mail-order-operations/</a>
Buster W.
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 3:36 p.m.
That would mean they would have to go to the trouble of applying....and, oh yeah, possibly work!?!? Oh, the horror!
G. Orwell
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 3:01 p.m.
At least they are standing up for what is right. Now, if just had just 3-5% of the US population followed suit, we'd have a real revolution. OWS, keep it up!
grye
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 5:16 p.m.
I can agree that the govt give aways to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars without any re-payment clause was wrong. But many of these OWS individuals want wealth re-distribution. That is akin to legalized robbery. Someone comes up with a great idea, sells it for millions of dollars, and then those without want to take their profits away. That is completely wrong.
Jhonny
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:55 p.m.
I dont agree that socialism is the right thing. I think capitalism is what makes the US great. Why do you think everyone wants to come here. They arent really banging down the doors to get into greece or Cuba.
joe.blow
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:48 p.m.
Yes, the bottom (I mean bottom bottom) .1% is complaining of the top 1%. As Chris Rock once said in a quasi cheesy movie, "shut up before I smack you with my wallet."
ChrisW
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 2:58 p.m.
About time they left Liberty Plaza back to the rightful inhabitants -- the homeless population.
EyeHeartA2
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 2:54 p.m.
40 people, huh? They must be proud. Saving the world with only 40 people and all.
EyeHeartA2
Sat, Oct 22, 2011 : 2:55 a.m.
Lemme know how that "occupation" goes, there, sport. I'll just have to get up, take a shower and go to work.
Sparty
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 7:28 p.m.
40 people to PLAN the next step for OCCUPY Ann Arbor --- not the rally itself. Do you read, by chance?
joe.blow
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:55 p.m.
Yet aa.com wrote a story about them. Considering there are 50,000 students on campus, a wowing .08% showed up, if you add in the 100,000 of AA, then 0.02% showed up for this epic movement aa.com wrote an article on. That's a real movement. I think the pro-pot people had more than 40 people show up.
mentalNomad
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 3:12 p.m.
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
bruceae
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 2:48 p.m.
It's going to get pretty cold out there very fast. It's going to be fun to see how dedicated these guys and the ones in New York are. I'm betting that the protest ends with the first snow. These guys will all be back in their parents' basements playing X Box again
joe.blow
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:52 p.m.
We've already seen it. NYC's smell is about the same as it was 3 weeks ago, which is saying a lot of people left, as smell increases 100 fold each week per person, meaning since the smell is staying the same, 3000% of these "protesters" have gone home. Now if we can just hose off the remaining few we'd have something.
Hmm
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 3:34 p.m.
Hit it on the head. We'll see how committed they are in about 3 weeks
G. Orwell
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 2:42 p.m.
Don't let the OWS get co-opted by the establishment. Obama, the Democratic and Republican leadership are the 1%.
joe.blow
Fri, Oct 21, 2011 : 4:50 p.m.
Finally! Something we can all agree on. What's been torquing me off about OWS is that they're anti-republican. They should be anti-all government. Both parties are guilty. Bush and Obama gave BILLIONS to wall street. Obama is probably more guilty, as he's received more wall street money than any president in history.