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Posted on Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 5:59 a.m.

Emails shed light on argument between EMU President Susan Martin and alumnus

By Kellie Woodhouse

Emails between Eastern Michigan University President Susan Martin and an alumnus shed light on a disagreement they had in April after a Washington, D.C. reception, an argument that led the Board of Regents to formally reprimand Martin for the incident and the role alcohol played in it.

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Eastern Michigan University Susan Martin

In the emails, which obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request, Martin apologized for her "overpassionate response."

According to memos between the board and Martin, the argument took place on April 23; Martin reported it to board chair Roy Wilbanks four days later; and on May 17 Wilbanks, along with other members of the board's executive committee, issued Martin a letter scolding her for her drinking too much at the event, arguing with the alumnus and using profanity.

In the letter, the board said Martin admitted to drinking on an empty stomach prior to the argument. The board alluded to "prior incidents" involving alcohol consumption but did not elaborate.

The board told Martin that if she didn't control her drinking she would face termination.

The day after the April 23 argument, Martin and the alumnus, Michael Ferens, exchanged email messages.

"I am very concerned over how angry you got last night and I want to diffuse that now," Ferens wrote in an email sent at 9:57 a.m., April 24. Ferens is a leader of the D.C.-area alumni association.

He told that the argument stemmed from a disagreement over EMU's former mascot, the Huron Indians. EMU changed its mascot to the eagles in 1991.

In an email sent at 8:38 a.m. Ferens mentioned that former "president [John] Fallon started a campaign on a Huron statue and spoke with a sculptor" and said that during the argument he "was merely wondering if we can pick up where that campaign left off."


Michael Ferens and EMU President Susan Martin got into an argument at a Washington, D.C. bar.

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From there, the email exchange suggests the argument turned to Fallon. Fallon was fired in 2007 for assisting in the cover-up of a murder that occurred on the Ypsilanti campus. Martin began as college president a year later, in 2008.

Earlier this year, Fallon was hired as an associate vice president of Ball State University.

Martin responded at 10:37 a.m., writing that the "recent hire of Fallon reignited a lot of media coverage of the murder at Eastern so I am a little hypersensitive."

The email exchange does not mention alcohol and Ferens told that he did not witness Martin drink excessively during their conversation.

“We sat down and had a glass of wine, but we didn’t have 15 glasses of wine,” Ferens said. “I did not witness any heavy drinking."

Read the email exchange in full here: Susan Martin and Michael Ferens email exchange.pdf

Meanwhile, Martin's personnel file, obtained though a FOIA request, reveals that her support among the board appears to have grown from 2008 to 2011.

In a review dated Dec. 15, 2011, the board praised Martin for being "very visible on campus and throughout the community" and for doing an "overall excellent job." Regent Beth Fitzsimmons praised Martin for expanding the reach of EMU in the county.

"For the past decade I have never seen such positive discussion about and support for EMU," she wrote.

In prior reviews from 2008-09 and 2009-10, the board reported overall satisfaction with Martin, but expressed that "a number of board members" were frustrated on some level with Martin's record of communicating with and listening to the board. By 2010-11, Martin had begun sending the regents weekly communication updates.

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This story has been corrected to reflect John Fallon's current position at Ball State University.



Fri, Jul 13, 2012 : 3:37 p.m. I strongly recommend that you look into the details of Martin's DUI conviction. Was she belligerent? Was anyone injured during an accident? Was the conviction pled down as part of a plea bargain after a more serious initial charge? There may be many more details there that could be indicative of a pattern. The public that sends their kids to this school deserves to know more.


Fri, Jul 13, 2012 : 1:54 p.m., since the EMU president has now stated publicly that she does not have an alcohol problem, while the board has requested that she seek alcohol counseling, are you investigating the "other incidents" related to alcohol the board referred to in its reprimand letter to her? Have you filed a FOIA to learn what those incidents were? It seems like they would shed some important light on this story. If they were merely hearsay incidents or some other minor issues, then this might be overblown, but if they were more serious, then the board's reaction here would make perfect sense. Did any of them involve driving her university vehicle while intoxicated? Are you looking into it? It seems to me that multiple reprimands for drinking on the job is kind of the definition of "where there's smoke, there's fire," or at the very least worthy of further investigative reporting. For that matter, have you FOIA'd records related to on-the-job drinking reprimands from any of her previous employers?

Early Morning

Fri, Jul 13, 2012 : 4:14 a.m.

Everyone from Ypsilanti to Ann Arbor knows the "dirty little secret" that goes on the President's Office in Welch Hall ... and everyone has been talking about it this week ... shaking their heads in embarrassment. "Morale issues, and the friction" -- "True, it is like no place else." When will the state finally intervene and rid EMU of its cancer? It won't be long until an EMF is in place.


Fri, Jul 13, 2012 : 11:51 a.m.

Don't be coy, Early Morning, it's unbecoming. What's the dirty little secret? Since you're protected, as we all are, by anonymity on these boards, surely you can come right out and say it. Unless you don't know anything, and you're just trolling, of course.

Ypsi St. John's Crusader

Fri, Jul 13, 2012 : 1:42 a.m.

Here's what I think. 1. Roy Wilbanks has got to go. He's been meddling in the internal affairs of a major educational institution for far too long. Saddle up Roy Boy, and get out of town. We'll all be better off without you...and your narrow-minded Ypsilanti-centric view of the universe. 2. Let's demand a full report of ANY alcohol-related offenses or citations by any current members of the Eastern Michigan University Board of Regents. Regents have smeared the reputation of a hardworking and dedicated president. Turnabout is fair play. 3. Is there a double standard here for top level female college administrators? I recall University of Michigan Hockey Coach Red Berenson being arrested for drunken driving...and even going wee-wee on the Ann Arbor Public Library. He didn't lose his job over it. Go Hurons! 2.


Fri, Jul 13, 2012 : 3:54 a.m.

And Red saw the error in his ways and guided the Wolverines to two NCAA championships in the next four years. Martin has never won anything.


Fri, Jul 13, 2012 : 1:39 a.m.

The purpose of this article is a very manipulative journalism tactic. Previous articles caused more negative reader comments towards Ms. Martin. This article softens the situation and draws comments which are exact opposites from previous articles. I have seen this played out in other controversial stories, including where it failed to create "sides" (Camp Take Notice). Ann is good at dividing readers and keeping people coming back to read. I just find it fascinating how easily people's emotions can be manipulated by the words of a journalist (including mine). I wish Ms. Martin the best. I would like to say the purpose of this article is to help drum up some sympathy for her, but previous articles have already done a good job of helping her to make herself look like a fool with her inappropriately defensive comments. If the board wishes to get rid of Ms. Martin, then the media certainly helped.

Middle America

Fri, Jul 13, 2012 : 12:18 a.m.

That photo makes Michael Ferens look like he is annoying. I'd get mad at him too.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 9:58 p.m.

I live in Ohio and my daughter is a proud alumna of EMU class of 2008. Let's give Dr. Martin a break. Remember: "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" or better yet "Let he without sin cast the first stone." Jim Lorain, Ohio


Fri, Jul 13, 2012 : 12:14 a.m.

...or better yet "When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew).."


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 5:41 p.m.

In a nutshell: 1. The president of a university had a DUI but was hired. She told the governing board about it. 2. The president of a university was talked to about her drinking by the governing board of regents after hiring... due to some unmentioned incidents. By not mentioning those incidents it makes this seem more trivial than it may be, but we don't know. Regardless, the board talked to her about her drinking AFTER her hiring and BEFORE another incident. 3. The president of a university drank and argued with the head of the DC alumni group AFTER being talked to about her drinking by the governing board of the university. Like it or not, step 3 was the kiss of death to any university president. The current incident is immaterial as to the severity. What matters is step 3. You do NOT cross the governing board of regents at EMU......ever. Doesn't really matter what anyone else thinks. That, my friends, is the way it works. I could give you a list of people who discovered this firsthand, but I won't. That's the way it is.


Fri, Jul 13, 2012 : 12:42 p.m.

Well, that makes a lot more sense. I was under the impression that you were one of those standing on the EMU campus with a scarlet letter in one hand and a noose in the other. And it didn't seem to match your ethos. If you know the situation that well, then I'm truly sad. But I think the Regents should understand that if they fire Susan Martin for this, they're going to encounter a lot of opposition.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 11:18 p.m.

Patty, I should explain further if I didn't make it clear....I am NOT saying I'd fire her. But I'm not her boss. The EMU board is her boss....and they will.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 11:10 p.m.

I know the situation. You do NOT cross the EMU board. You'll see. This board has complete control of EMU and everything that swirls around it. The president is not the power at EMU.....the board has been, is now, and always will be the power at EMU. This I know.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 10:22 p.m.

I don't get you on this topic, Cash. Normally, your posts are thoughtful, intelligent, and balanced. But from the beginning, you've been saying, "SHE'S GONE!" How come?

EMU Prof

Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 4:47 p.m.

Based on these emails, it is now possible to imagine with some precision how this conversation played out. Ferens: (hammered): "iss all about the Huron, thass why Fallon is my man, WOOT WOOT" SueMar (shocked, irritated, and very mildly buzzed:) "Fallon? Because of the mascot? Are you f*&($#g serious?" And good for her.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 5:52 p.m.

Oh!!! She thought Ferens said "falcon", not "fallon". And she wanted an eagle...not a falcon.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 3:44 p.m.

Unfortunately Ann made a decision to cover only local news. Too bad they are pounding this story into the ground--it seems a little sexist. Let the lady do her job. a2nancy


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 5:54 p.m.

here here A2! let's not forget, now it appears she lied about the topic of the argument. Based upon the emails, it was about her being offended by Mr. Ferens' preference for the previous EMU head. Drinking problems (DUI before hiring; verbal reprimands about drinking incidents after hiring and before this incident, and now this one) and poor judgement. in the professional world, she'd of been gone by now. Great example to set for the students at EMU.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 5:47 p.m.

actually, it seems like "us women gotta stick together." Remember: equal rights, equal responsibilities.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 3:34 p.m.

We know more information about her and this incident than we do about President Obama's time in College, or Fast & Furious?

not a billy

Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 3:10 p.m.

Find it interesting that certain members of the Board of Regents have the audacity to reprimand anyone for their use of alcohol.

EMU Prof

Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 3:10 p.m.

This makes it pretty obvious. There' s nothing to see here. Nice job, Ferens.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 2:51 p.m.

Well, in the email Ferens cannot even remember what he said. Now I'm trying to decide how he remembers how much martin drank. Seems the alcoholic haze was pretty thick that night. The Mayo Clinic itemizes 12 symptoms of alcoholism, two of which are "not remembering conversations" and "legal problems". 2 down, 10 to go.


Fri, Jul 13, 2012 : 7:03 p.m.

In your dreams


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 2:32 p.m.

"In a review dated Dec. 15, 2011, the board praised Martin for being "very visible on campus and throughout the community" and for doing an "overall excellent job." Regent Beth Fitzsimmons praised Martin for expanding the reach of EMU in the county." This is the 6th article regarding this blown out of proportion incident between President Martin and Mr. Ferens; enough already please. A discussion over the Hurons vs. the Eagles, mixed with a glass of wine, and the Board of Regents, along with the press, have gone too far. With a student currently at EMU, our family has seen a dramatic improvement in EMU since Dr. Martin arrived on the scene. The new Science Complex, the renovation of Pray-Harrold, new windows in many buildings, increased safety of students on campus, and 0% tuition, fees, room & board recently.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 2:48 p.m.

"Eastern Michigan University's College of Business is an 'outstanding' business school, according to The Princeton Review. The education services company features Eastern in the new 2012 edition of its book, "The Best 294 Business Schools." "This recognition, for the eighth consecutive year, validates that our faculty are truly providing a top-quality education for our students," said David Mielke, dean of EMU's College of Business. This was part of the press release issued October 2011...The higher education reporter never posted this in Much more newsworthy than these six articles put together, IMO.

Lola Killey

Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 1:59 p.m.

I support President Martin. This issue has been blow out of proportion. Board of Regents - drop this now!


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 2:24 p.m. - drop this now!


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 1:59 p.m.

The president is setting a poor example for the University and students therein. Unacceptable.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 1:53 p.m.

How many of you remember that years ago, the former Drain Commissioner had accidents in county vehicle while driving after using alcohol. She was a public official yet no one called for her resignation as an elected official. Why should people be so quick to want this women fired. She is embarrassed as is and has committed to seeking counseling and make amends by donating her raise to a campus based alcohol education program. Give her a chance and let the story end. It serves no purpose but the further degradation of a fine University.

Rachel Barsch

Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 1:41 p.m.

A bit of a case of much ado about nothing, eh? I will never understand society's perpensity to be be angry/hateful towards others, and it appears that this may be the case here. As a student at EMU, I have appreciated Dr. Martin's work. I understand that a student's perspective is often different than a staff member, the community of a board member, but if you will, I hope she stays.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 1:30 p.m.

Sounds like Susan needs to look for a new job. Not because of this incident, which appears to be blown WAY out of proportion, but because it is clear she is not welcome or supported by the regents. Just seems like a hatchet job. Good news fodder though, now that we can't write about camp take notice anymore.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 9:25 p.m.

More important than being welcome or supported by the regents is being welcome and supported by the students, staff and faculty. Remember what happened at UVA, and how the their board of visitors ended up with egg on its face.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 1:03 p.m.



Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 12:26 p.m.

Most of the current EMU Board of Regents must go - - along with the good old boy mentality. Perhaps they should be elected instead of appointed?


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 8:34 p.m.

I agree and majority of the were present when the murder was covered up... I'm surprised that they were allowed to stay... the governor should have replaced all of them so they could have gotten a fresh start!!!

not a billy

Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 3:18 p.m.

I remember the days when certain current Board members and other local affiliates of the EMU program drank substantial amounts of alcohol at a local country club and a local bar on North Huron Street. Daily. I'm wondering if they somehow have reformed or just forgotten their past?


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 12:35 p.m.

Voters have proven that they also lack good judgement. No good solutions here.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 12:26 p.m.

So she's done a great job and they are going to fire her over this?


Fri, Jul 13, 2012 : 3:04 a.m.

Some people were saying that about Joe Paterno.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 12:23 p.m.

No matter how you spin it, Martin embarrassed herself, the university, and it's students. Her inability to control her alcoholic consumption during public events is not what one should expect of a leader. People in these positions have been removed for far less. After a conviction for a DUI, you would think she'd know better. I would like to know if she drove after the incident in Wash DC. Her university vehicle should have a breathalyzer attached to the ignition. This is on the national news circuit now. VERY EMBARRASSING!!!


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 10:18 p.m.

"People in these positions have been removed for far less." Really? Is that so? How about naming a few of those people?


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 6:43 p.m.

The person she was in an argument with says that there was no heavy drinking and things didn't get out of control, but thank you for setting the world straight with your vast, in-depth, and personal knowledge of the situation. It's amazing no one has contacted you earlier since you clearly know more than the people who were involved. In future situations like this, please step forward so the truth can be told without all these nasty things like speculation and facts.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 12:35 p.m.

But by all indications there was no heavy alcohol consumption to control. It appears to be passion for EMU, not alcohol, that created the atmosphere the led to the as reported - SQUABLE. Way to much for just a squable. I would hope that she has passion for the Univeristy and the students - it means she cares. It is the coverage that is VERY EMBARRASSING.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 12:18 p.m.

Wait a minute. Ferens said he didn't witness any heavy drinking. No one else witnessed any heavy drinking. Why is the on-going major theme of the Bd. of Trustees and the articles drinking????


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 6:39 p.m.

Here's the thing. It's an alumni social event. What are those events for? Fundraising. What do you do at fundraising events? You drink and socialize. Do you think UofM (all hail and kneel before the mightiest towers in all the land, and give thanks for its existence) has ever had a dry fundraising event? As someone who's worked in UofM catering, that answer is no.

EMU Prof

Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 3:12 p.m.

Because it makes the story more sensational. That's it.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 12:58 p.m.

Because an argument with an alumnus is boring. But an argument with an alumnus when the college president is--using yesterday's terminaology--drunk, trashed, and wasted? That's right up there with ET and Extra and other programs of that ilk.

Unusual Suspect

Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 12:52 p.m.

"2" is also the answer given by people who have had 2 drinks.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 12:46 p.m.

Because the major on-going theme is "drinking"----not "heavy drinking". The Board actually used the phrase "consumption of alcohol". Your post and Ferens are the only two that have used the phrase "heavy drinking". Ask a cop the most common answer a drunk driver gives to the question: "How many drinks have you had?" P.S., the answer is 2

Craig Lounsbury

Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 12:12 p.m.

here is a link to the Board of Regents from which contact information is available.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 12:11 p.m.

It is quite nice that the seems to be changing to an accurate tone backed with data that represents the very positive feelings EMU staff/students/ profs generally have toward regarding the impact President Martin has made at Eastern. If you are looking for page views, may I suggest embracing "cute" cat videos and photos rather than incomplete reporting and inflammatory headlines? About 25% of any organizations network bandwidth can be shown to be related to playful cat videos. Think of the clicks, and its all positive!


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 12:18 p.m.

LOL on the cute cat video idea.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 12:11 p.m.

Tabloid trash! This story, all of the related stories, etc. should not be page 1 articles. If has a burning desire to 'reveal the truth to the public', some judgement needs to be part of this desire and consideration for all parties involved. If thinks that this type of story is one of the most important issues facing our citizens, then I suggest that they realign their priorities. Even if Ms. Martin was wrong, this is not front page information. I guess I did not realuize that Ann Arbor had it's own National Enquirer =!


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 11:53 a.m.

Kellie Woodhouse: John Fallon was not hired as President at Ball State, as you mention in paragraph 11. He's an Associate Vice President for Economic Development. The president is Jo Ann Gora.

Kellie Woodhouse

Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 11:55 a.m.

Thanks Rimshot, I made this correction about 5 minutes ago in our system and it should be reflected momentarily online. Thanks for reading.

Joel A. Levitt

Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 11:53 a.m.

These emails make it clear to me that if the EMU Board members aren't simply stupid, then their motivation is devious and their actions are unbecoming officials of a public institution.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 11:46 a.m.

The board was "frustrated on some level with Martin's record of communicating with and listening to the board"? No surprise there - the Board has a history of micro-management and are way too involved in the day-to-day details of running the University, to the detriment of everyone involved. They hired an able administrator and leader in Dr. Martin, but they don't let her do the job they hired her to do.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 6:35 p.m.

They have a habit of micromanaging when they actually show up to meetings.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 11:43 a.m.

I almost fell asleep reading those emails, they were so dull. Could put this non-scandal to rest and start reporting actual news?


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 1:30 p.m.

Exactly what I was thinking... News? What news? really? Slow day/week/month...

Bob W

Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 12:42 p.m.

Here, here. AKA +1


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 11:41 a.m.

The EMU regents or whoever made this thing public are fools. Poor EMU covered up a rape and murder in a dorm room of one of its students by the hands of a stranger and typical thug who invest the campus area and now they make the current President the butt of jokes in all of academia in Michigan. They should of fired her if they wanted to go public with this. Murder and Rape are not to be kept secret but publicizing someone's drinking is shameful in the context EMU did it. Just look at how the media swarms all over this. That includes you Kellie Woodhouse. .


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 12:10 p.m.

Somebody wanted this public, A2comments. What caused the Free Press to suddenly take an interest in her personnel file?


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 12:07 p.m.

Free Press made it public...

Craig Lounsbury

Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 11:31 a.m.

"Ferens mentioned that former "president [John] Fallon started a campaign on a Huron statue and spoke with a sculptor" and said that during the argument he "was merely wondering if we can pick up where that campaign left off." I'm a bit confused. Was the whole original argument about a statue of an Indian? I'm an old fart and will always be a "Huron" at heart. But EMU isn't the "Hurons" anymore (Much to my chagrin) they are the "Eagles". It is what it is.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 1:48 p.m.

actually, after reading the email exchanges, the impression I have is that the argument had nothing to do with the mascot (or statue). It appears that Mrs. Martin was upset because she thought Mr. Ferrens was more supportive of her predecessor than her.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 11:23 a.m.

All this over the former EMU Hurons and mascot vs the Eagles of today. Should Lake Huron be renamed? At least there is no mascot associated with it. As mentioned before, a real mess. The story has legs.

so much nonsense

Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 11:06 a.m.

It appears that the only people who acted in appropriately here were the members of the Board of Reagents. Really a reprimand for an argument where the President is defending her self, reputation as well the University prior Board's decisions and its reputation? That justifies a reprimand and public humiliation? That justifies all the personal assumptions being made about her drinking? Where are all the other prior incidents in her file that are alluded to in the reprimand? Her file says she is doing an excellent job. Reading the emails just strengthens my support of President Martin. The Board has done nothing but embarrass themselves and the University once more. All I see now is a women trying to appease her overreaching, vindictive and power grabbing bosses (the Board). It is funny that no matter what your position is and no matter your status one always has a "boss". It is luck of the draw if you get a good, responsible boss or a boss who is a tyrannical and overbearing.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 6:33 p.m.

Well it wouldn't be a story if they didn't focus on the alcohol! Oh wait, it's not a story. A few of the board members actually showed up to a meeting for once, heard the word "alcohol," and forgot that this is the best president the university has had in decades. Now and the board can sit around patting each other on the back.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 12:54 p.m.

I agree completely. And yet, despite the fact that Ferens has stated twice now that they "had a glass of wine" and he did not witness any excessive drinking, continues to emphasize the Board's emphasis on drinking--even using the word "scolded," which is pretty strong. It just goes to show that in this era of news readers, clueless "journalists," and entertainment "news," nothing will get the media going like a scandal. Even one as small as this. Ann, LOOK! There's a mosquito! Get out your cannon!


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 12:23 p.m.

I agree completely with this assessment.

Paula Gardner

Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 11:01 a.m.

An error in this story has just been corrected. Thanks to commenter Nathaniel Borenstein for pointing it out.

Paula Gardner

Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 1:41 p.m.

Because the original comment was deleted.

Chip Reed

Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 11:30 a.m.

Why were my comments deleted?


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 11:01 a.m.

We should have a new President soon


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 6:30 p.m.

Yes, because the facts of the situation don't matter at all.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 5:32 p.m.

Yes. It will happen. It was discussed with you by the board previously. You did it again. You re gone by Dec 31, 2012. Doesn't matter if anyone thinks it is right or wrong. That's the way it works. EMU board rules. Period.


Thu, Jul 12, 2012 : 12:06 p.m.

BETTER NOT!! Susan Martin is the best thing for EMU. LEAVE HER ALONE!!